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Juliet27 Tue 12-Dec-23 08:01:38

Australia is struggling too it seems.

‘ A big increase in arrivals (up 103 per cent from last year to 681,000) only partially offset a small increase in overseas migrant departures (up 8.8 per cent to 226,600). The underlying cause was the return of international students.’

Callistemon21 Sun 17-Dec-23 20:03:53

DaisyAnneReturns

Callistemon21

Oh do please give it a rest, DaidyAnneReturns and stop insulting other posters.

What on earth did I say that was insulting? Grow up Callistemon. That was a simple general statement of fact.

QED

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 17-Dec-23 21:41:52

MaizieD

To revert to migration.

I saw on X/twitter earlier that apparently no plane operators are willing to sign a contract with the government for flights to Rwanda, and the RAF are refusing to carry them out. It seems to have been reported in the Times...

If anyone subscribes to the Times it's here:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/latest-setback-to-the-tory-rwanda-plan-there-are-no-planes-cxpwnkpfc

If true, this is something of a problem for Sunak...

It's quite troubling that the RAF have been put in this position. I don't want them to carry these poor people but I am concerned that one of our services his had to take a stand against a government.

In a government that seems to think playing politics is governing - it really isn't - we are cursed with the truth that Mr Sunak is not even very good at politics which gives us problems like this one.

Because Brexit pulled in voters who wouldn't normally vote for them they are trying to pull the same trick using the prejudices the Rwanda project appeals to. This in spite of the fact that many voting Conservative in the last election have seen the promises made to them fade into the land of make-believe.

As the Economist commented this weekend, we should not be prepared to see this man as competent simply because he did not blow up the financial markets within a month. We should not see him as a good leader when, with a large majority, he does not lose a vote in the early stages of legislation. This is not a reason to see it as a triumph of Tory Party management. It is not normal for a British government to suspended human-rights legislation or for Parliament to be in constant opposition opposition to the judiciary.

At one time the generality of Conservatives would have stood against these things. Now, the lack of backbone amongst these people has forced others to take a stand. Just how long do we have to suffer these people.

Grantanow Tue 19-Dec-23 11:17:42

I'm sure a Rwandan airline would be happy to do the job. But I suspect that stage will never be reached. The whole Rwanda thing is a massive distraction from this Tory government's appalling failings over the past decade and lacks any moral justification.