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James Cleverly at it again

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BlueBelle Sun 24-Dec-23 11:21:09

What is it with this man and his runaway mouth
So it seems in ‘private’ and ‘in jest’ it’s said this man has joked about giving his wife Rohypnol ‘in a small amount of course hahaha’
Can he really stay on with so little thought in what he says

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Hope the link works looks a bit long

Juliet27 Sun 24-Dec-23 11:24:27

I read that he said the ideal wife, not his wife.

BlueBelle Sun 24-Dec-23 11:28:10

James Cleverly has apologised for joking about spiking *his wife’s drink with a date rape drug in comments made at a Downing Street reception*

Can’t really see your point Juliet should he be joking about spiking the cats mothers drink ???

Juliet27 Sun 24-Dec-23 11:33:06

Let’s face it there will be no end of different versions of what he said in countless reports but whatever it was…it’s disgraceful.

nanaK54 Sun 24-Dec-23 11:37:42

Why would it even enter his mind to say such a thing?

BlueBelle Sun 24-Dec-23 11:39:21

Exactly I don’t care who s wife/girlfriend/mother/neighbour he was talking about blxxdy disgusting

Time he went with the other trash

BlueBelle Sun 24-Dec-23 11:40:28

And another of his little gems of wisdom
He also laughed that the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there

RosiesMaw Sun 24-Dec-23 11:40:58

It’s not joking, there’s no “jest” - just appalling.

Glorianny Sun 24-Dec-23 11:49:14

Nothing the man says can surprise me now.
It is absolutely appalling.
I can't imagine what his wife must feel.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Dec-23 12:01:07

oh my, he WHAT? Un be lie vA ble sad

MayBee70 Sun 24-Dec-23 12:08:24

The fact that his wife has been battling breast cancer makes the comment even more vile. A letter I’ve just received from my MP says that Cleverly denies saying sh*****e which is wrong for a start because he now owns up to saying it but said it was aimed at the MP for Stockton, not the place itself ( then again she lied about several other things I’d written to her about).

Glorianny Sun 24-Dec-23 12:09:30

MayBee70

The fact that his wife has been battling breast cancer makes the comment even more vile. A letter I’ve just received from my MP says that Cleverly denies saying sh*****e which is wrong for a start because he now owns up to saying it but said it was aimed at the MP for Stockton, not the place itself ( then again she lied about several other things I’d written to her about).

OMG poor woman. I didn't know that.

Gwyllt Sun 24-Dec-23 12:13:43

I think the whole comment said something about if she saw more clearly she would look for someone better

muffinthemoo Sun 24-Dec-23 12:15:39

The Home Secretary felt comfortable telling rape jokes at a Number 10 reception.

The Home Secretary, the person with ultimate responsibility for the detection and investigation of sexual crimes in this country, thinks rape is funny.

Thinks it is so funny that he had no problem expressing how funny it is in public at a formal government event. On the day his junior minister announced a 'crackdown' on spiking, the very behaviour he was joking about.

There is absolutely nothing defensible about this. Anyone defending this needs to have a long hard think about any other serious violent crime they think would be suitable for the Home Secretary to joke about in public.

BlueBelle Sun 24-Dec-23 12:24:28

gwyllt see my previous post that was his next gaffe

As muffin says anyone not seeing this as abhorrent needs to wobbly their head Totally indefensible

Gwyllt Sun 24-Dec-23 12:29:16

Bluebell
I only caught the bit while walking past TV whilst doing other stuff

MaizieD Sun 24-Dec-23 12:33:50

I think it's all part of the tory desire to turn the clock back to the 1970s for women. I'm surprised he didn't make a mother in law joke as well...

And let's not even think about Miriam Cates saying that it was the duty of British women to have more babies...

Sparklefizz Sun 24-Dec-23 12:59:40

His comments are disgraceful from anyone at all, but from the Home Secretary .... Well! he is a disgrace and should go.

muffinthemoo Sun 24-Dec-23 13:41:06

MaizieD

I think it's all part of the tory desire to turn the clock back to the 1970s for women. I'm surprised he didn't make a mother in law joke as well...

And let's not even think about Miriam Cates saying that it was the duty of British women to have more babies...

Oh, her. I could see her far enough. She's not that old herself. It's always open to her to quit her job and stay at home cracking out a few more babies herself.

Doesn't seem to attract her as much as getting 92 grand a year to dress up and lecture the rest of us on what we do with our uteri, though. Can't think why.

Who has her kids when she's at work? Just curious after all the things she said about working mothers and all that. Doubt it's her husband as he is a wealthy businessman.

I personally gave up my career to be at home with my children, but that was a personal choice and I will be damned if I am going to tell other women what they should be doing with their lives. I also make extremely sure to not tell other people they 'should' be doing anything I am not prepared to do myself.

toscalily Sun 24-Dec-23 13:46:20

This is 2023, woman have fought long and hard to be treated fairly and at the same level and have the same work/life opportunities and respect as any man. And yet, we still have someone in a position of power, authority and what would once have been considered an honourable position openly making such degrading statements about women. This man is not worthy of the job and should be asked to leave (thrown out!)

Bridie22 Sun 24-Dec-23 14:10:09

I was totally gobsmacked when I read this earlier, he needs to think before he speaks, actually he needs to go immediately. Totally inappropriate remarks and creepy ugh!

Grammaretto Sun 24-Dec-23 14:13:17

There's little point in dissecting what he said. Whatever the precise words, they are not things we should hear from our "leaders"
He obviously has poor judgement and has no control over himself so how can he possibly make important decisions affecting millions?
How do these people end up running the country?
I despair. 😔

Katie59 Sun 24-Dec-23 14:47:54

With Cleverly as Home Secretary with that sort of attitude how can we expect the police to behave properly.

Maremia Sun 24-Dec-23 14:51:35

Grammaretto, hopefully enough people agree with you at the next GE, and vote them out.

Iam64 Sun 24-Dec-23 15:00:22

His comments would be disgusting and unacceptable from any one. This level of casual misogyny is hard to believe from any man let alone the Home Secretary at a Downing Street function. He’s ’apologised’ whilst pointing out he thought he was having a private conversation

He should resign or better yet, Sunak should sack him. His comments wouldn’t be out of place in those misplaced groups for sex offenders, that were found to make things work.