Is escalating the conflict by bombing the Houthis the way to go?

Glorianny

Grammaretto you are absolutely right. There are mainly hawks and sadly a lot of grans who swallow whole the propaganda produced by the US and the oil providing countries they befriend.

Sometimes in the real world you have to sup with the devil.

Glorianny

Grammaretto you are absolutely right. There are mainly hawks and sadly a lot of grans who swallow whole the propaganda produced by the US and the oil providing countries they befriend.

Oh you’re doing comedy now huh?
Having read all your posts about the wonders of Iran ( the biggest joke of all) you now choose to insult the intelligence of most of the posters on this thread, quite an achievement.
Being the poster girl for the Iranians and the Houthis isn’t a good look.And no, a lot of ‘grans’ don’t swallow whole any propaganda from the US but am starting to wonder about the propaganda you yourself are falling for.

The Houthis have been showing propaganda films of them invading and taking charge of ships in that sea route for months now.

20% of the world's container shipping goes via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.
Do you think attacking these merchant vessels is acceptable, Glorianny?

Australia, Bahrain, Canada and Netherlands are part of the alliance with US and U.K. standing up against terrorism. Where are France, Germany and the rest of the EU, other than The Netherlands, who will ultimately benefit from our actions.

We are currently staying with French friends in southwest France who say that they are ashamed at their government who hide behind countries brave enough to defend our western way of life.

WASHINGTON, Dec 21 (Reuters) - A total of more than 20 countries have agreed to participate in the new U.S.-led coalition safeguarding commercial traffic in the Red Sea from attacks by Yemen's Houthi movement as more nations join the effort, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

Still, the new Pentagon total would suggest that at least eight of the countries who have signed up have also declined to be publicly named, in a sign of political sensitivities of the operation as regional tensions soar over the Israel-Hamas war.

Reuters

I listened to Jeremy Bowen on the BBC news tonight. He speaks a lot of sense although he has to choose his words carefully.

You cannot saturation bomb a people out of existence Mr Netanyahu and expect anything good to come of it, least of all the release of the remaining Israeli hostages.

I am not the poster girl for Iran, however I will not accept that they are actually the only regime in the Middle East that subjects women to restrictions.
Saudi Arabia has done far more in the area of sponsoring terrorism than Iran, but apparently is forgiven. The amount of propaganda swallowed whole and regurgitated on this thread is incredible.

Nor do I understand why it is acceptable to kill over 400,000 Yemenis. And approve the further bombing of a country which is already starving. The situation in Yemen will not have been improved by this action and the Yemeni people will continue to suffer.

Are you talking about Gaza or the bombing of military installations in Yemen with the aim of allowing merchant shipping to pass through the Red Sea without fear of being attacked?

That was to Grammaretto

I think you make plain your approval of Iran, Glorianny.

Callistemon21

20% of the world's container shipping goes via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.
Do you think attacking these merchant vessels is acceptable, Glorianny?

I don't think any aggressive military action is acceptable. But if that action save lives or stops other action which is killing large numbers of people I think it may be justifiable.

I wonder why is commercial shipping considered to be sacrosanct but the bombing and slaughter of innocent civilians is acceptable?

Who said it was acceptable to kill?

If you consider it is, then perhaps you need to reconsider.

Callistemon21

I think you make plain your approval of Iran, Glorianny.

I don't "approve" of them. I do however recognise that they are not the only bad guys, nor are they the absolute pariahs the US chooses to paint them as. The history of US intervention and meddling is one reason the country is in the state it is now. The hatred the Iranians display to the US is understandable.

Quite why anyone thinks it is fine for us to be best friends with Saudi Arabia which has not only funded terrorism but slaughtered thousands of Yemenis and is equally restrictive for women I don't understand.
I realise US and UK governments do so because of oil but people don't have to agree with it.

Callistemon21 if your only contribution to a discussion is simply to misinterpret what I say it really isn't worth debating with you.
You apparently have no ideas of your own.

I dont think it's a good idea for us to be friends with Saudi Arabia, I am ashamed of my local football team due to their association with them. Its almost as if people are capable of a range of views.

Glorianny

Callistemon21 if your only contribution to a discussion is simply to misinterpret what I say it really isn't worth debating with you.
You apparently have no ideas of your own.

You are deliberately accusing posters of approving of the bombing of Gaza, not for the first time.
Disgraceful.

I think people's lives are more important than shipping to be honest.
If there's a delay in receiving goods from the far east for a while, is that so bad?
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Grammaretto

I think people's lives are more important than shipping to be honest.
If there's a delay in receiving goods from the far east for a while, is that so bad?
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You’re making it sound like you’ve popped down the shops for a tin of baked beans and they’re not in yet.

🫢

Maybe not baked beans but you get my drift!

Human lives are certainly more important than goods, but there’ll be plenty of posters on here complaining when the price of everything goes up and poorer people in Britain suffer. You can’t have it both ways!

merlotgran
If there is one thing I wouldn't be waiting for from China it would be baked beans. 😊
As a nation we do need to reflect on our dependence on imports from the far east for the sake of the planet.

It's just a pity that we couldn't send in commandos to destroy their base from inside. Israelis are good at that sort of thing.
The whole world is affected, not just the West. We were obliged to put a stop to the attacks.
I hope the MoD now realises that cutting back on defence was not a good idea. Too many idealists...not enough realists!

It's a very strange day when I wake to find someone talking about Iran in a sentence with the word feminism.