Trump crushes his Republican rivals in the Iowa caucus!

vegansrock

There’s a lot of stupid people about .

A lot of the voters who vote for Trump are not stupid tho, so that doesn’t wash.
The US is a vastly different place to the UK.

Callistemon21

That's idealistic, that's wonderful, that's a beautiful thing.
It's nice.
We love winners. We love winners. Winners are winners.

Just what the world needs!

😂
And it’s gonna happen real soon, real soon folks. Beautiful!

Urmstongran

Wars under Obama-7
Wars under Trump - none...and yet Trump is somehow the warmonger? I don’t think so.

He genuinely puts America first. And he has the measure of Russia, Iran and China.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

Obama inherited the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

It simply isn't reasonable to think the "need" for war only existed while Obama (and now Biden) were/are in office. I'd put it that Trump and his advisors didn't give enough attention to foreign policy to give a damn about anywhere else. The phrase "America First" could be, under Trump, continued with "and screw anywhere else", in my opinion.

And America First is puzzling for me; when I encounter Americans inevitably in the conversation they will tell me their ancestry - Irish / German / Scottish etc - (I have a very Irish surname) but this apparent dislike / hatred of immigrants for Trump supporters is universal. Is it just the brown people?

And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

HE IS NOT LEADING THE WORLD. America is not the World. He is not leading other countries. Trump is generally held in distain by other Country Leaders. I'll supply some links if required.

I do think supporters of Trump and his fellow Republicans will watch the same news outlets, read the same press, follow the same people who all follow the same script and are (I'm going to be controversial now) too stupid, too dumb, to go and do their own research, to go and check other sources.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

LondonMsFitz 👍🏻👏👏

Trump is a dangerous, corrupt misogynist. He lies easily and about whatever he thinks will work for him. He isn’t leading the world urmston, he’s leading a country that needs much better than the two current candidates

👏👏👏

Oreo I didn’t say all Trump supporters are stupid - just a lot . Its fine for Trump to call people stupid though?

It’s a discussion forum London. You’ll have your viewpoint. I have mine. We are poles apart politically. I won’t be able to persuade you on this forum, nor you me. That’s okay. We just have to agree to disagree. I don’t get her up nor do I say mean things about other posters. I’m not that kind of a person.

Unlike Hillary Clinton who called Trump supporters ‘deplorables’. 😮

I was asked upthread to give my reasons for supporting Trump. I have done so.

Respectfully yours,

Oreo

vegansrock

There’s a lot of stupid people about .

A lot of the voters who vote for Trump are not stupid tho, so that doesn’t wash.
The US is a vastly different place to the UK.

They aren’t stupid, but they have lost sight of their moral compass. I don’t think anybody would tell them not to vote Republican if that aligns with their values - just not to vote for a morally bankrupt and dangerous criminal. Charisma is way overrated, it doesn’t make people good politicians just because they possess it.

And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

You won’t get any applause from me, LondonMzFitz.You sound like a bully.

You obviously didn’t spot the word, think.

Agree with what Merlotgran just said. Nobody need apologise for saying what they think.

Urmstongran Thank you for giving your reasons fot supporting Trump.

I’m afraid I don’t agree with your thinking. But we are all entitled to our opinions, as you, quite rightly point out.

Urmstongran has no need to apologise for anything whatsoever, LondonMcFitz

I don't agree with her but she's entitled to say what she thinks within GN guidelines.

LondonMzFitz

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

The whole thing, troops out of Afghanistan, was set in motion by President Trump who made a deal with the taliban to do so.
Biden merely went along with it.

Whitewavemark2

ronib

I think paradoxically that Putin would not have taken on Ukraine if Trump had been president at that time. Trump is unpredictable and his lunacy kept Putin from acting. Just a thought.

Quite an interesting take

I agree with that actually. I once got in a car with a friend who drove very erratically. He rode a bike in the same way. Middle of the road and all over the place. He never had an accident because motorists had no idea what he was going to do next so avoided him. Trump is imo a political version of my friend. I never got in a car with him again, though!

I will ponder on that theory!! 😃

merlotgran

^And Urmstongran it is very important that you apologise for your last sentence.^

I think the world is a safer place with him leading it.

You won’t get any applause from me, LondonMzFitz.You sound like a bully.

You obviously didn’t spot the word, think.

Take out the "I think" and you are left with - "the world is a safer place with Trump leading it".

Trump Does Not Lead The World.

Oldbat1

How can anyone vote for this dreadful man i really despair! He should be in jail. Same as those in this country who “loved” Johnson.

"Trumphet" is a total vulgar, dictatorial, insane madman ..

A scary scenario to say the least with his buddy "Putin" ..

HE IS NOT LEADING THE WORLD. America is not the World

On the same principle, the USA is not America. It’s not even North America.

Oreo

LondonMzFitz

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 he actually did bring the troops home from Afghanistan.
Am no Donald supporter but give him credit for that at least.

The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war.

Under Biden's watch. www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-end-of-the-war-in-afghanistan/

Biden utterly cocked that up in my opinion. And I'm happy to go on record as a Trump hater*.

*Seriously, I really hate the guy.

The whole thing, troops out of Afghanistan, was set in motion by President Trump who made a deal with the taliban to do so.
Biden merely went along with it.

No - Trump had been in talks with the Taliban leading up to his defeat at the election, and part of the agreement was that the US would (and did) release 5000 Taliban fighters. The one American prisoner was not released.

Trump - as usual talked about troop withdrawal, and agreed that it should take place by May 2021, but in fact he had zero plans as to how this should take place which lead to the chaos that we saw when Biden was forced to withdraw at speed.

I see that Farage was with Trump. What with the threat of Trump winning the election and Richard Tice now being on UK tv as much as Farage (which means I have to turn the tv off) used to be I’ve decided that I’m going to ignore politics for a while and, to preserve what little sanity I have left, am absorbing myself in children’s fantasy fiction. I honestly can’t cope with it. I thought we’d seen the back of the orange one.

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

AmberSpyglass

Just your friendly remind that Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016, even if he did win the Electoral College vote.

NO.

'Biden ultimately received the majority in the Electoral College with 306 electoral votes, while Trump received 232.'

'Biden Popular Votes 81,282,916. Trump popular votes 74,223,369.'

nanna8

He looks after the USA. He can communicate with countries like North Korea because he ‘gets’ them. He is not so belligerent as Biden, probably doesn’t have shares in weaponry. He is more energetic, speaks better. Not so likely to start a World War ( that’s a big one ) . For my country he would be far worse ,of course, but for the US - better. You asked. I don’t live there so I am not voting for him anyway so what I think is irrelevant, same as the rest of us. Oh, and he understands and relates to the Baptists.

Trump does not look after the USA. He looks after himself. He was a life long Democrat until he decided to run for President. He switched to Republican because they would be stupid enough to vote for him ..his words ! Trump is nothing but belligerent ! He spews lies as facts and has put the USA in danger while in office ( see many quotes from HIS former administration appointees) Trump almost started a CIVIL war with his dangerous rhetoric on Jan 6., Biden isn’t belligerent, he has decades of experience in public office. Baptists ? ahead was never ever religious and courts the extreme right evangelicals . A scary bunch at the best of times. He only cares about them as a voters bloc.

Take out the "I think" and you are left with - "the world is a safer place with Trump leading it"

That’s my point. It was an opinion, not a statement. You clearly don’t know the difference.

I think you’re the one who should be apologising.