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Brexit Fallout

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jan-24 07:29:31

The U.K. has been experiencing a severe shortage of drugs recently and medicine for such conditions as type 2 diabetes, cancer, motor neurone disease and such forth are either extremely difficult if not impossible to obtain. The reason being that we have a close neighbour whose buying power is so much greater than ours.

This morning we have news that the EU has decided to “future-proof” by stockpiling drugs as far as it possibly can, which will further snd severely exacerbate the U.K. s position.

In other Brexit news -trade talks with Canada have completely broken down. The U.K. inherited the trade deal when it left the EU, and has since been in talks to try to maintain that deal as is, but given the UKs much lesser economic clout, Canada has refused to play ball and have walked away from the talks. The fallout will mean that cars manufacturers, cheese manufacturers and beef manufacturers amongst other stuff. now face high tariffs if they wish to export to Canada.

Of course we have already noted that extra bureaucracy due to hit our businesses trading with the EU at the end of January will force prices up.

Kandinsky Sun 28-Jan-24 19:54:35

No, I’ve never felt I made a mistake, and I’m being completely sincere. All the silly mud slinging and name calling is so pointless now.
I’ll never regret voting to leave, and I’d vote leave again if there was another referendum - I’m hopeful someone somewhere will make it a success.

Casdon Sun 28-Jan-24 20:06:25

Kandinsky

I voted leave and I am disappointed with the ‘fallout’ ( for want of a better word )
I just haven’t noticed a single difference - I’m not sure what I was expecting but I was expecting some improvements, especially where immigration is concerned.
But I think the conservatives have just handled it badly.
Not sure what Labour will do when they get in, but we won’t be rejoining anytime soon - if ever.

We will you know. It could be within the next ten years if there is war.

MaizieD Sun 28-Jan-24 22:33:28

It's interesting that some of our Leave voters have expressed disappointment in Brexit as it is unfolding even if they have no regrets about their vote.

I, for one, and probably others, would love to know what exactly they were expecting to happen. What material difference it was meant to make.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 08:23:40

MaizieD banners on buses? £350 million a week saved? Could be spent on the NHS? Does that count as a material difference?

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 29-Jan-24 08:34:38

It seems to me that what Brexiters and Trump supporters have in common is they are the are both isolationist. How would that work?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 29-Jan-24 08:37:22

Badly!

Greta Mon 29-Jan-24 08:39:27

"Politicians lie and don't keep their promises/you can't believe a word they say". You often hear comments like those. So why did they believe all the promises made during the referendum?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-Jan-24 08:46:28

facts4eu.org has an interesting article complete with graphs showing U.K. exports since referendum.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 08:46:36

Greta the delivery was masterful - don’t you recall Boris Johnson in full flow?

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 08:47:57

ronib

MaizieD banners on buses? £350 million a week saved? Could be spent on the NHS? Does that count as a material difference?

We didn't have to leave the EU in order to fund the NHS better, ronib.

However, you're right, that did create an expectation of a material difference.

That, and the anti-immigration message seem to me to have been the most potent factors, but what other things did the Leave voters think would be materially different? There must have been more than just these two.

I confess that I thought Ug's and Zandinsky's conclusions were quite sad, 'disappointed' and a 'damp squib' after causing so much upheaval.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 08:54:38

MaizieD we can make our own trade deals I recall? Not be tied to … blah …

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 08:57:34

GrannyGravy13

facts4eu.org has an interesting article complete with graphs showing U.K. exports since referendum.

Is it something to do with an increased percentage of exports to the EU, GG13?

A link would be appreciated.

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 09:03:10

ronib

MaizieD we can make our own trade deals I recall? Not be tied to … blah …

You don't need to quote the nonsense to me, ronib.

But, anyway, how would that have made a material difference? I mean a real, tangible difference to our lives, not a 'feelz' thing about going it alone...

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 09:04:09

Look on the website facts4eu.org

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 09:05:30

Perhaps you'd like to post the link then, ronib?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-Jan-24 09:24:36

MaizieD

Perhaps you'd like to post the link then, ronib?

Just put the address in your search engine, MaizieD

For some reason only known to itself by iPhone is refusing to do links at the moment.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 09:29:24

Recovering from cataract surgery and using a magnifying glass to see and type!

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 09:33:26

I think it would have been polite to have posted a link if one was asked for.

ronib Mon 29-Jan-24 09:35:14

If one knows how …

Casdon Mon 29-Jan-24 09:41:22

This extract from their own website tells you all you need to know MaiizeD.
‘NEUTRALITY: Facts4eu.org focuses on information which shows that the UK is better off regaining its independence and growing globally.’
Aka Tory lie spreader.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-Jan-24 09:46:31

There you are MaizieD I did explore that my iPhone wasn’t playing nicely.

I hope the link is ok (now on laptop)

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-Jan-24 09:47:02

*explore 🤦‍♀️ should have been explain

MaizieD Mon 29-Jan-24 09:53:40

GrannyGravy13

There you are MaizieD I did explore that my iPhone wasn’t playing nicely.

I hope the link is ok (now on laptop)

I do apologise. I missed that bit about your phone.

Sadly there's no link on the post from your laptop. Did you press send too early😆

Don't worry. I'll find it.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-Jan-24 09:55:21

facts4eu.org let’s hope this works.

If this is an example of how my day is going to pan out I am off back to bed…

maddyone Mon 29-Jan-24 09:57:51

I didn’t vote for Brexit, I voted remain. However if a deal with Canada means we have to accept beef that has hormones then I won’t be eating any Canadian beef. The Canadians can keep it!