Emergency Aid To Gaza Halted Because Israel Says So?

ronib

The oil rich Arab states have the option of increasing their contribution to make up the shortfall?

Yes, that is always an option.

So where did the money come from to build those amazing tunnels, and let’s not forget arms.

petra

So where did the money come from to build those amazing tunnels, and let’s not forget arms.

I thought that Israel had actually built some of them?

Yes the tunnels were initiated by Israel, and Hamas made use of them when Israel withdrew their military.

UNWRA is not the only UN agency to have been embroiled in scandals. The fact that the UN has sacked some staff suggests the Israeli allegations are credible to the UN. If aid has been siphoned off to support HAMAS and some of its fat cats and their fancy villas that is a disgrace.

Galaxy

Its larger than that, it means peoples faith in the UN has broken down, that's not a great place to be either.

I agree.

Whitewavemark2

The agency is supporting 5 million displaced persons. What is going to happen to them?

Frankly I’d be astounded if there were no UNWRA employees supporters of Hamas. It is naive in the extreme to assume otherwise, and I’m sure that state leaders know this.

However as I said once we can get through the cloud of propaganda and work out exactly what is happening in my view it is not particularly clever to cease funding.

They cut off aid because of 2 people.. it's so similar to feeling justified killing over 30.000 in revenge for less that 200.. It is a really evil way of resolving such complex issues and will rapidly descend into a much greater disaster unfortunately.

pascal30

Whitewavemark2

The agency is supporting 5 million displaced persons. What is going to happen to them?

Frankly I’d be astounded if there were no UNWRA employees supporters of Hamas. It is naive in the extreme to assume otherwise, and I’m sure that state leaders know this.

However as I said once we can get through the cloud of propaganda and work out exactly what is happening in my view it is not particularly clever to cease funding.

They cut off aid because of 2 people.. it's so similar to feeling justified killing over 30.000 in revenge for less that 200.. It is a really evil way of resolving such complex issues and will rapidly descend into a much greater disaster unfortunately.

There were over 1,200 Israelis killed on 7/10 and over 200 hostages were taken.

12 UNWRA Hamas members have already been sacked with over 300 more being investigated.

I do not understand your numbers

Think of a number less 1,000

Galaxy

Its larger than that, it means peoples faith in the UN has broken down, that's not a great place to be either.

I agree, but if it isnt fit for purpose, by which I mean has an agenda then the world has to build a better institution.

Btw, this information was released after the fact. Employees have been dealt with.
Must surely mean the UN had faith in its veracity?

GrannyGravy13

pascal30

Whitewavemark2

The agency is supporting 5 million displaced persons. What is going to happen to them?

Frankly I’d be astounded if there were no UNWRA employees supporters of Hamas. It is naive in the extreme to assume otherwise, and I’m sure that state leaders know this.

However as I said once we can get through the cloud of propaganda and work out exactly what is happening in my view it is not particularly clever to cease funding.

They cut off aid because of 2 people.. it's so similar to feeling justified killing over 30.000 in revenge for less that 200.. It is a really evil way of resolving such complex issues and will rapidly descend into a much greater disaster unfortunately.

There were over 1,200 Israelis killed on 7/10 and over 200 hostages were taken.

12 UNWRA Hamas members have already been sacked with over 300 more being investigated.

I do not understand your numbers

Yes you are correct.. I actually typed 2,000 but it must have autocorrected in some way. And I appreciate that they have found more Hamas members of UNWRA but the article I read said that they had initially cut off aid because of 12..

pascal30 no worries typos are my specialty, and the situation with regards to UNWRA numbers seems to be changing rather rapidly.

True or not, the timing of these revelations means that the rebuke to Israel from the UN is no longer headlining. Just saying.

Regardless of whether or not UNRWA staff were involved in the 7 October operations, defunding UNRWA and penalising the dying, starving, thirsty, ill and displaced Palestinians of the Gaza Strip is, at the very minimum, collective punishment. These decisions contradict the ICJ’s binding provisional measure to ensure immediate humanitarian aid, and more critically, contribute to the Israeli genocidal war.
In order to prevent the genocide of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, states are obligated to facilitate the work of UN agencies and international organizations, not defund them and further cripple their abilities to provide life-saving aid.
According to UN Special Rapporteur, Francesca Albanese, on the occupied Palestinian territory, the states that have defunded UNRWA are “collectively punishing millions of Palestinians at the most critical time, and most likely violating their obligations under the Genocide Convention.”

Your last paragraph - "obligated".
I daresay there are sorts of clauses stating things like, "unless such and such is happening".

I hope aid gets through by other means.

I have been listening to a male professor and surgeon this morning who has just finished some time in Gaza. Last week I was listening to another female surgeon.

What you hear is nothing short of horror of the worse sort. Children are being operated on without anaesthetic or sufficient medicine. One little girl has half her face blown off and both legs amputated. The professor said that what absolutely got to him was that as he amputated her legs he saw nail varnish on her toes. Every morning when making the rounds he could tell if the children needed immediate care by the smell coming from the wounds. If nothing was done to clean them, the child would be dead by that evening. And all that without medicines and anaesthetic.

Don’t tell me that aid should be stopped - the casual decision to stop aid going to the most vulnerable, suffering and innocent in the world shows to me how inhumane people are becoming.
And don’t dare quote the poor children held prisoner, killed, maimed and raped on Oct. 7th. They need aid just as much but not more than any other child on this earth.

Children !

Anniebach

Children !

The professor is a paediatrician - are you doubting a British surgeon’s words?

He said that at least half of the dead and wounded are children. They are suffering disproportionately.

He would say that wouldn’t he ,

Anniebach

He would say that wouldn’t he ,

Oh annie where is your humanity?

Whitewavemark2

The agency is supporting 5 million displaced persons. What is going to happen to them?

Frankly I’d be astounded if there were no UNWRA employees supporters of Hamas. It is naive in the extreme to assume otherwise, and I’m sure that state leaders know this.

However as I said once we can get through the cloud of propaganda and work out exactly what is happening in my view it is not particularly clever to cease funding.

You don’t seem to know what you’re saying on this subject.
Since UN staff have been sacked it clearly isn’t anything to do with a cloud of propaganda.The UN have seen the evidence that Israel provide them with and acted.

Whitewavemark2

Anniebach

He would say that wouldn’t he ,

Oh annie where is your humanity?

You seem to be a sceptic only when it suits you.In other words only of any Israeli pronouncements.
Never mind with the ‘and don’t dare quote the children held prisoner, killed maimed and raped on Oct.7th’ why the hell should we not? In other words, where is your humanity?

It is about proportionality....Israel has a right to defend itself. However they are now committing genocide. Hamas will like all other terror groups rise again. Israel needs to accept Gaza as an independent group ruling themselves just like they rule themselves. Often the bullied, Jews in this case, become the bullies. So history appears to teach nothing.

You are wrong - in fact I have said that it would be astonishing if there are no supporters of Hamas in the agency, but there is absolutely no doubt that Netanyahu is using it to his advantage and demanding that the UNWRA is disbanded. That and with the Israeli far right government now stating that settlers go back to Gaza and Palestinians are “removed”

Those found guilty of any crime should be dealt with just like any other rogue employees of any agency, but then to make the leap and cease funding for so many innocent souls is to my mind outrageous.

Israel is not committing genocide