King Charles

Leaving for Sandringham today,his nose was red his eyes watery, perhaps after treatment, I don’t know

Nothing is wrong with me but I question your eyesight.

I too thought he looked unwell at Sandringham last weekend. He has certainly lost weight.

Seriously, what on earth us wrong with you?

I think the poor man looks unwell and has done for some time.

He looked very well when last seen attending Church at Sandringham. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

Poor thing,he looks so unwell. Reminds me of the Queen,so frail and yet still carrying on.

Cossy

Many many of us get great treatment on our NHS.

Absolutely.

It is worth saying that being privileged and able to afford private medical care does not necessarily guarantee you will have a better outcome from your treatment.

In fact (and I have mentioned this before) my own NHS consultant-surgeon told me that there are surgeries - complex and potentially risky operations - that some surgeons will not perform privately. This is for two reasons - if the surgery fails, the surgeon runs the risk of litigation, and it could also damage his reputation.

This particular surgeon performed precarious surgery on both me and another elderly lady in the same NHS ward as me. Mine was so complex that he had to pause half way through to consult with colleagues on how to proceed. It is questionable if these surgeries would have been carried out privately.

Whatever the failings of the NHS, they are not due to our being a monarchy, and the speed of diagnosis and treatment afforded the King, has - as others have pointed out - also been matched by the NHS (as was mine). Regional variations and failures are the fault of the system and other complex issues, which are a separate matter.

SheepIzzy

very lucky isn't he
No-one receiving a cancer diagnosis is 'lucky'.

privilege gets you treated extra faster
Some cancers are more easily and quickly identified than others and don't necessarily require various multiple procedures to determine them.

I think you should take up your mother's case with the Patient Liaison Service to find out what is going on.

I agree Callistemon, General Practice is really struggling.
I need a hernia removed. My GP said it will be a very long wait. I’ve now been referred via the nhs to our local private hospital - 4 month wait there.
My appointment to see my GP involved a two week wait.

Iam64

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well

I think it works well in emergencies but some waiting lists eg for orthopaedic surgery, are years rather than months long.

The GP system is on the verge of breaking down too.

Iam64

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well

Absolutely 👍🏻

Casdon

SheepyIzzy

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

I’m not sure you understand how the NHS works SheepyIzzy. If you undergo an operation and a cancer is discovered you are prioritised for treatment, you jump to the top of the list because it is a definitive diagnosis. That isn’t exclusive to kings, or people receiving private treatment.

Quite right, Casdon.

Two years waiting to see a Consultant if cancer is suspected?
I'm afraid I find that unbelievable.

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well

@SheepyIzzy
I'm sorry that your Mum's care hasn't been what you expect but what you claim as fact is incorrect. My DD had a shocking cancer diagnosis in the autumn and from initial provisional diagnosis, the speed at which investigations were initiated and a plan for treatment devised was breathtaking and treatment was started as soon as a treatment plan was in place. Much like King Charles but provided by the NHS.
Since then, Mother Nature has lobbed another curved ball and my DH has also had a cancer diagnosis, discovered by chance when he had a routine prostate check though, like the King, nothing to do with his prostate. His care and treatment plan is nothing like as urgent as our daughter's but faultless nonetheless. I am a fierce critic of some elements of the NHS but let's be real, private care wouldn't have been of any benefit whatsoever to our family these past few months.

SheepyIzzy

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

I’m not sure you understand how the NHS works SheepyIzzy. If you undergo an operation and a cancer is discovered you are prioritised for treatment, you jump to the top of the list because it is a definitive diagnosis. That isn’t exclusive to kings, or people receiving private treatment.

Iam with the greatest respect and affection i replied politely to a question

I was struck, seeing some shots of Charles at church on Sunday, how like Prince Philip he is getting to look.

Annie, with the greatest respect and affection, please stop this.

My husband’s stage 4, metastasised cancer was only identified after slight stomach discomfort was disturbing his sleep - occasionally. We were told palliative care only, possible life expectancy 6 months. We were devastated, he did a ten mile walk the day before diagnosis.
Treatment was delayed as they struggled to identify the primary. Once they’d done this (endless biopsies/scans etc) he had radiotherapy to blitz the brain tumours and immunotherapy to stop the cancers in his bones, lungs, stomach, lymph etc etc growing and spreading. 3 months in, scans showed the 6 brain tumours were shrunk, the other cancers had shrunk or stopped growing. We were nhs treated at Manchester’s Christie Hospital, the equivalent of London’s Marsden, where I expect the King is being treated.
So - all that hugely expensive treatment in the NHS for my lovely husband, despite ‘palliative care only’. Staff were without exception professional, highly skilled, totally up to date on research and had good people skills.
Sadly, the radiotherapy wrecked my husband’s carotid arteries. He died 6 months to the day after diagnosis, after a series of catastrophic strokes. However, he and we, lived those special 6 months with love and joy.
Whatever lies ahead for KC and his loved ones, I hope they make the best they can of their time together

Who will?

No, he will write about it in his next book

Listening to Chris Ship the Royal correspondent on the news discussing the family rift. We don't need to know how long father and son met, where the son is now or whether he will meet his brother, do we?

Germanshepherdsmum

But not the traits of the gutter press.

The gutter press justify their actions by saying that it is what the public want. It isn't. I hope the king makes a good recovery.

Blood was discovered when my DH sent his poo test stick back in September , he had a colonoscopy within 4 weeks ( delayed due to another health condition) and polyps removed. by mid November we had the call to say it cancer, within days he had his first scan and appointment with the consultant and by the 13 December we were told he was cancer free. He has had another colonoscopy since and blood tests and will have this done every 3 months. The nurses call every week just to check we are both doing ok. All of this on the NHS.

No, SheepIzzy, he is not lucky. He has cancer. I’m sorry if your mum has problems but our experience of the NHS has been if it’s suspected, it’s investigated quickly. So perhaps the medics don’t believe your mum has cancer. Anyway this thread is not about anyone other than the King and this is not the place for complaints about the NHS.

SheepyIzzy

Quicker treatment, but unlikely to be better.

He is King!

Both myself and husband have had cancer scared (luckily not cancer) we were both fast tracked. My husband this year, me about 6 years ago.

Many many of us get great treatment on our NHS.