King Charles

I skimmed the DM on line earlier. What a nasty rag it is. Stirring hatred and dissent, distorting its ‘news’ to suit whatever agenda suits.
I wish we could shut it down for 6 months, as an experiment. My prediction is we’d be a happier country 🌞

Cancer is a b***ard.

The moment that sticks in my mind is my darling mum, DD, DGS and myself in M & S cafe, Lakeside when a lady on the next table commented on how lovely, four generations out together having fun

I knew that this would be our last trip altogether, and smiled whilst crying inside.

(My mum went into the local hospice the following week, the lady commenting obviously hadn’t seen Mum’s wheelchair or how we struggled to get her from it onto the seating)

We are lucky to have our memories, cancer doesn’t differentiate between poor or rich, king or commoner.

Well, the royals have always led a life that is far removed from "ordinary" people.
I wouldnt expect anything less when one of them is ill.

We had private medical care when my husband was diagnosed with cancer of the prostate (already high grade and metastasised into his bones. We did not use it for the cancer treatment (chemo, radiotherapy for pain, and a new form of radiotherapy (didn’t work and made things worse but it was a trial). We did use it for the several operations he needed to keep him comfortable. The NHS was both brilliant and awful, he was unable to pass water and had to wait 26 hours for surgery (NYE), imagine how that would have been for him. He was on a steel trolley for 26 hours with sepsis another time. Emergency care is NHS only. He lived nine years and I can’t count the number of people who told us we were lucky. Living with cancer was horrendous for him, constant bone pain, water issues, kidneys etc etc. We were not lucky at all. We did treasure the time, it’s all I can say.

Calendargirl

What if it wasn’t the King we’re discussing?

What if it were Paul McCartney, Rod Stewart, Elton John, Tom Jones to name just a few elderly, very wealthy celebs who, if God forbid, were diagnosed with cancer or similar?

I imagine they would be using some of their money to pay for the speediest, most effective treatment they could source? And why not?

Why all these gripes about Charles? Yes he’s immensely wealthy, privileged, fortunate in so many ways.

And he also has cancer.

I think the difference when talking about wealth and what causes resentment from some is the fact that we pay for our RF. Just answering your question.

I do feel sorry for Charles, and hope he makes a good recovery, as I do my sister. His family will be just as worried as we are. And I think they should all be given some privacy right now. And we should stop talking about it. My sister refuses to talk about it and just wants to spend time with her family. I'm sure Charles feels the same.

I find Whiffs post interesting. That such a high percentage ignore tests. Hard to understand. And must put the NHS under pressure when people are diagnosed late.

Well we don't pay for our RF, we did once that is true. The Sovereigns grant act 2011 sets a single grant to support the Monarchs official business to enable the Monarch as H of S to discharge his duties. The Prince of Wales is supported by the Duchy of Cornwall. Other members of the RF support themselves except when they're on official business. HM will be paying for his hospital treatment the same as any other wealthy person. Prince William will be paying those school fees, the tax payer does not.

Good on him speaking out, cant be anything more than positive. He will have the very best private health care, no waiting list to contend with. Good luck to them all

The King is fortunate not to have to wait for treatment. The target for NHS cancer treatment after diagnosis is that 85% of patients should wait no longer than 62 days. In fact that target has not been met since 2014. About 60% of patients begin treatment by the target date. That means (1) 15% are intended to wait longer than 62 days and (2) 4 out of 10 patients experience delays beyond the target date.

In my opinion none of that is acceptable and I'm sure the King would not find it acceptable. The Tories have been in power since 2014 so the problems can't be blamed on strikes or the pandemic. Do they care at all?

Grantanow I have an issue with your last paragraph.

Waiting times in some NHS trusts are not meeting the Government guidelines we all know that. The pandemic and subsequent shut downs of the majority of GP’s face-to-face appointments added considerable to the current cancer crisis

Also whilst not being the cause, the doctors along with nurses strikes have added to the waiting times. Patients cannot be treated if there are no staff on shift to treat them.

The bottom line is we need more NHS staff to be available to work, not standing on the roadside with placards or emigrating to work elsewhere.

More places at medical school need to be available, go back to some nurses not having to go to University (I think it used to be SEN’s and SRN’s)

We can afford to pay the doctors and stop the strokes, we can’t afford not to

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Yes and not wishing to digress, think of the climate!
On the other hand, if he hadn’t come over to see his father, he would’ve been damned for that too.

Jaberwok

Well we don't pay for our RF, we did once that is true. The Sovereigns grant act 2011 sets a single grant to support the Monarchs official business to enable the Monarch as H of S to discharge his duties. The Prince of Wales is supported by the Duchy of Cornwall. Other members of the RF support themselves except when they're on official business. HM will be paying for his hospital treatment the same as any other wealthy person. Prince William will be paying those school fees, the tax payer does not.

I think the difference when talking about wealth and what causes resentment from some is the fact that we pay for our RF. Just answering your question
nadateturbe
We pay them to do their jobs. I would think that Charles and other member of the Royal Family use their own private money to pay for private healthcare. If any went into an NHS hospital then probably a whole floor of the hospital would be cleared, other patients postponed, money spent on security etc. which would be a huge bone of contention for many, quite rightly.

We pay entertainers too, that is why they're wealthy!

Jaberwok is correct.

He made an announcement that he was coming to see his father, why not an announcement expressing his wish to see
his father soon ' no, there were cameras at the American airport, they guessed he would be leaving that morning?

The wealth of the monarchy is a big issue and we all have our own views. Not for discussion here, I think. I was merely answering the question as to why some taxpayers feel resentful, as it was asked.
But it's no reason not to feel sympathy for any person/family going through a very difficult time. Especially with Catherine just recovering too.
I've no idea why Harry only made a short visit. But even five minutes with a father who has just been diagnosed with cancer is worth flying any distance, in my opinion.

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Harry can’t win either way but sadly that’s all of his own making.

Nobody going through the trauma of cancer, whether they’re the patient or the family, would want to spend time with somebody they can’t trust.

The wealth of the monarchy is a big issue and we all have our own views. Not for discussion here, I think. I was merely answering the question as to why some taxpayers feel resentful, as it was asked.

Because they don't understand and presumably think we, the taxpayers, are funding private treatment out of the £1.29 each taxpayer pays to the Sovereign Grant per annum!

Harry lies and makes money from his lies. He is self first and last.

Mollygo

bevisp1

Hope that King Charles recovers, what I don’t get is that Harry came all the way over from USA just for apparently 45minute meet up with his father. Could he not have made it his worthwhile and stayed at least a few days.

Yes and not wishing to digress, think of the climate!
On the other hand, if he hadn’t come over to see his father, he would’ve been damned for that too.

Damned if he did visit, damned if he didn't. Who knows the reasons for such a brief visit? Maybe he had pressing commitment back in the US, maybe Charles had told him there was no need to stay for any longer? It's all speculation, but he can't win either way. If he hadn't come to visit, even for such a brief period, people (including many on here) would be lining up to crucify him for that too.

Liars are not crucified, they certainly cannot be trusted

Don't want to discuss it Callistemon21.

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

Anniebach

Liars are not crucified, they certainly cannot be trusted

Recollections may vary...

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

Perhaps Harry refused.

Harry flew to Balmoral where his grandmother was dying, he
told the world her daughter ,three sons, grandson didn’t talk to him about his problems. He also told the world what he said to
his grandmother when his Aunt took him to pay respects to her
body , this can be defended?