King Charles

GrannyGravy13

Grantanow I have an issue with your last paragraph.

Waiting times in some NHS trusts are not meeting the Government guidelines we all know that. The pandemic and subsequent shut downs of the majority of GP’s face-to-face appointments added considerable to the current cancer crisis

Also whilst not being the cause, the doctors along with nurses strikes have added to the waiting times. Patients cannot be treated if there are no staff on shift to treat them.

The bottom line is we need more NHS staff to be available to work, not standing on the roadside with placards or emigrating to work elsewhere.

More places at medical school need to be available, go back to some nurses not having to go to University (I think it used to be SEN’s and SRN’s)

Of course strikes add to the problem but the Tories have presided over the failure to meet cancer treatment targets since 2014, well before any strikes, and if they can find,£3.3 billion to persuade the DUP back to Stormont they can surely find extra money for NHS staff. The Tories failure to put an NHS staffing plan in place for a decade until the last minute is a dereliction and they failed to fund additional medical school places. Their immigration handling did not help after Brexit.

The 62 day waiting time target is AFTER diagnosis so although the lack of GP appointments contributes to diagnosis delays (yet another problem - there are about 1.6 million patients in the overall testing backlog, not just for cancer) it does not directly affect treatment waits.

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

Flying that distance gave him publicity

Iam64

I skimmed the DM on line earlier. What a nasty rag it is. Stirring hatred and dissent, distorting its ‘news’ to suit whatever agenda suits.
I wish we could shut it down for 6 months, as an experiment. My prediction is we’d be a happier country 🌞

Hear hear, Iam64.

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It does.

Harry will be wrong, whatever he does.

Many people find lies and betrayal unacceptable,

Rosie51

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

I always wonder about this. If your child dislikes your new partner and does not get on with them what do you do? I can understand that some might feel they should accept the new person, but if they don't do you cut them off completely? or accept their opinion and see them on your own?
I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Well I do, but not on behalf of other people, particularly if I have no idea how those people feel about it.

Glorianny

Rosie51

Glorianny

fancythat

Glorianny

I was thinking today of the parable of the prodigal son. Charles should certainly know it And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many.

I see your point.
And I would hope he did.

But in the actual parable, the son was truly sorry for the things he had done. And then his dad forgave him.

And we have no idea what was said. But flying that distance to spend 45mins with someone shows a certain level of commitment.

It's reported the helicopter to take Charles and Camilla to Sandringham was delayed for an hour to accommodate Harry's impromptu visit.

And I wonder if your child flew over from the USA to see his father wouldn't you at least offer him a room for the night? Especially if you had so many. and do you know that offer wasn't made or are you speculating?

I imagine, given the public airing of his thoughts about Camilla that any visit by Harry is somewhat awkward for all parties. Unless of course Harry is so insensitive as not to consider anyone else's feelings?

I always wonder about this. If your child dislikes your new partner and does not get on with them what do you do? I can understand that some might feel they should accept the new person, but if they don't do you cut them off completely? or accept their opinion and see them on your own?
I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Yes, I’ve often wondered why Harry felt like that about Camilla too, it must have been tough for all of them.

MissAdventure

Harry will be wrong, whatever he does.

Just like his father, then!
Can't do right for doing wrong.

Maybe.
Ìve never seen Charles criticised (on here) though.

Maybe Camilla has asked the question of falling out with her stepson on Gransnet. What would her Username be I wonder.

And what would all the advice be?

I actually think it's quite healthy to say how you feel about someone perhaps to your nearest and dearest but not the whole world.

I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Smileless2012

^I actually think it's quite healthy to say how you feel about someone^ perhaps to your nearest and dearest but not the whole world.

Maybe he said it to them first (I think he says he did) and wasn't really listened to.

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

Rosie51

^I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.^

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Meghan doesn't come, she has the sense to stay away from them. Although I believe she might have come as the Queen was dying but Harry was told she wasn't welcome?
But Camilla has to be there?

The Queen knew Camilla for many years, Megan for 2 years

The problem with Harry is the complete breakdown of trust both with family and friends. Fine to air your grievences, but do it in private not on the world stage not in order to make millions of dollars. Ok you don't like your stepmother, but again deal with it as a family matter, in private, not in books and interviews to a world wide audience, again to make money. If my son was doing that to me and I knew that every conversation would possibly be repeated, I would be very very wary of him, and I guess the King is just that. Why would any friend of family member want Harry staying with them when quite possibly conversation will be monetise for the delight of a ready, eager for gossip, audience? Trust has to be rebuilt, that can take much time, goodwill on all sides and even then may prove impossible.

Meghan betrayed the late Queen, Camilla most certainly did not.

Rosie51

^I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.^

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Can I ask, where on TV or in his book did Harry say ‘how much he hated his father’s new partner’?

I have seen him say they did tell their father not to marry Camilla because they were fine as they were, and also insinuations that Camilla had leaked things to the press, but certainly no mention of hatred.

Beyond these anecdotes, in the book and in promotional interviews, Harry has taken his criticism of Camilla much further with statements on her character. He has alleged that Camilla had a calculated agenda to remedy her public image as the “other woman,” one that paved the way for her marriage and eventual Queen Consort title.