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BlueBelle Mon 05-Feb-24 18:01:42

It’s just been on the news that Charles has cancer and is not taking any duties for now

MissInterpreted Thu 08-Feb-24 15:38:33

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

Rosie51 Thu 08-Feb-24 15:38:55

Glorianny

Rosie51

I actually think it is quite healthy to say how you feel. about someone. The insidious hints of a fall out indicated by frosty looks, the cold shoulder and a lack of contact, which escalate the problem seem much worse to me.

Except that most people don't go on TV or publish books saying how much they hate their parent's new partner do they? Harry seemed able to accept Camilla when it suited while he was very much a part of the Royal set up. In the same way as Harry is commended for his loyalty to Meghan surely it's to be expected that Charles will show loyalty to Camilla? I wonder what the reaction would be to suggestions that members of the family were willing to meet Harry as long as Meghan didn't come.

Meghan doesn't come, she has the sense to stay away from them. Although I believe she might have come as the Queen was dying but Harry was told she wasn't welcome?
But Camilla has to be there?

When the Queen was dying her children, some of their spouses and only two of her grandchildren made their way there. You really think a granddaughter-in-law of only 2 years should have taken a place when her own blood granddaughters and other grandsons weren't there? Do you think the Queen would have wanted Meghan there in preference to Zara Phillips, or Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie? Obviously the entire family weren't going to descend upon her.

Casdon Thu 08-Feb-24 15:42:59

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-24 15:43:56

Yes Misinterpreted a bride , mid 30’s, divorced wearing virginal white whilst walking down the aisle doesn’t fit the mould,

Jaberwok Thu 08-Feb-24 16:03:36

In his book Spare, Harry described Camilla dangerous and a villain who left bodies in the street.

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-24 16:04:33

What mould ? Diana was very close to the family.
Sarah had lived with someone before she married Andrew
Sophie and Edward lived together for sometime before marriage
Charles and Camilla
Peter and Autumn

MissInterpreted Thu 08-Feb-24 16:10:01

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

Boz Thu 08-Feb-24 16:10:08

I do hope Charles was wired up for the conversation with his youngest son. God knows how it will be used when relayed to wife of "different mould."

Casdon Thu 08-Feb-24 16:13:27

MissInterpreted

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

But he went against the expressed wish of the public and members of his own family ultimately to marry Camilla. If that wasn’t for love, what was it?

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-24 16:15:06

So not true that Charles and Camilla fell madly in love when young and wanted to marry, much is conveniently ignored to
keep the story going

MissInterpreted Thu 08-Feb-24 16:18:50

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

If he'd married her in the first place, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, he married someone who was chosen as a 'suitable' bride and brood mare to provide him with heirs. Throughout history, royal brides were carefully chosen for such 'attributes'. Those lower down the pecking order were usually free to marry whoever they chose.

But he went against the expressed wish of the public and members of his own family ultimately to marry Camilla. If that wasn’t for love, what was it?

Well, maybe he should have married for love in the first place then! Like I say, I'm no fan of the RF, but there are some on here who seriously view them through very rose-tinted glasses!

Oreo Thu 08-Feb-24 16:27:54

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

William clearly married his wife from love.

Iam64 Thu 08-Feb-24 16:30:57

Rose Tinted Glasses - like it MissInterpreted. Your name sits well in this discussion, where ‘some posters’ seem to have their own rock solid interpretations of who said what and when within the RF
They’re a family who because of their role, live out much of their lives in public. I find it hard not to feel a degree of sympathy for all of them, particularly given the King’s cancer diagnosis.
I’ve no difficulty in believing that Camilla worked hard with her advisors in attempts to get the public to see her more favourably. Whatever they did was effective as she’s generally accepted as the wife of the King

MissInterpreted Thu 08-Feb-24 16:34:16

Indeed, Iam64 - I always find it amusing with any threads on here about the RF, because there are always posters who claim to 'know' exactly what members of the RF say and think, even behind closed doors.

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-24 16:38:01

Some quote what members of the family say ,some choose to believe anything in the press

Glorianny Thu 08-Feb-24 16:38:23

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

Because the first wife proved more difficult to shape to the mould than was expected.

Glorianny Thu 08-Feb-24 16:39:37

Oreo

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

William clearly married his wife from love.

Or maybe because she just kept hanging around!

Smileless2012 Thu 08-Feb-24 16:42:57

Maybe he did say something to them and wasn't listened too Glorianny but that doesn't excuse broadcasting it to the whole world does it.

Casdon Thu 08-Feb-24 16:47:26

Glorianny

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

Because the first wife proved more difficult to shape to the mould than was expected.

Your logic defeats me as ever. So Charles married Camilla, a divorced and independent woman, who still now retains her own home, and who had two children, against the wishes of many, because he had failed to mould Diana to conform.

Norah Thu 08-Feb-24 17:00:30

Iam64

Rose Tinted Glasses - like it MissInterpreted. Your name sits well in this discussion, where ‘some posters’ seem to have their own rock solid interpretations of who said what and when within the RF
They’re a family who because of their role, live out much of their lives in public. I find it hard not to feel a degree of sympathy for all of them, particularly given the King’s cancer diagnosis.
I’ve no difficulty in believing that Camilla worked hard with her advisors in attempts to get the public to see her more favourably. Whatever they did was effective as she’s generally accepted as the wife of the King

Indeed.

I feel sad King Charles, who seems gentle, eco-friendly, sustainably forward, has cancer. I can easily feel sympathy for the King's cancer, apart from his family matters - which I'm actually not privy to anyway.

It seems Camilla, given years, has morphed from unacceptable to being accepted as Queen. The late Queen was ok with her, good enough for me.

Glorianny Thu 08-Feb-24 17:08:59

Casdon

Glorianny

Casdon

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Harry told the world male members of his family married to suit the mould but he married for love

I'm no fan of Harry (or any of the RF, if I'm being totally honest) but I think there's more than a degree of truth in that particular statement.

I don’t think there is. If that were true why did Charles marry Camilla?

Because the first wife proved more difficult to shape to the mould than was expected.

Your logic defeats me as ever. So Charles married Camilla, a divorced and independent woman, who still now retains her own home, and who had two children, against the wishes of many, because he had failed to mould Diana to conform.

After maintaining a relationship with her throughout his first marriage of course.
And I don't know what form that relationship took.
But it went on
That's why they couldn't marry in church. There has to be no involvement of the second spouse in the failure of the first marriage.

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-24 17:15:58

Glorianny obviously you are not a member of the Anglican Church

Casdon Thu 08-Feb-24 17:27:51

I give up (again) Glorianny, you are now tacitly admitting that Charles did marry Camilla for love.

MissAdventure Thu 08-Feb-24 17:29:23

Well, that's all of the royals married for live then.

Just that some took longer about it than others.

MissAdventure Thu 08-Feb-24 17:29:57

Love.. not live. angry