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King Charles

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BlueBelle Mon 05-Feb-24 18:01:42

It’s just been on the news that Charles has cancer and is not taking any duties for now

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Feb-24 17:23:27

He is our King. What do you expect? What an unpleasant post.

Rosie51 Tue 06-Feb-24 17:25:22

SheepyIzzy

But, unlike many others, treatment is instant?? How many people, who rely on the NHS, HAVE to WAIT to see a specialist? Cancer is horrible for anyone, but you can be sure, he'll get better treatment than those who are the same age, younger or older, who can't afford to go private.

Yes he's privileged and has started treatment quicker than many others. Him not getting quick treatment wouldn't make it any quicker for anyone else. I challenge that he'll get better treatment. My third and hopefully last cancer was referred to a prestigious London Hospital. My treatment was identical to anyone who was paying privately, except they probably got to the see the consultant at every visit, while I sometimes saw the registrar.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 06-Feb-24 17:26:01

SheepyIzzy

But, unlike many others, treatment is instant?? How many people, who rely on the NHS, HAVE to WAIT to see a specialist? Cancer is horrible for anyone, but you can be sure, he'll get better treatment than those who are the same age, younger or older, who can't afford to go private.

Totally disagree.

In November 2023, DH was seen by GP, referred to hospital for biopsy, got results all within two weeks, on the NHS.

We were fortunate as it was not cancerous.

Callistemon21 Tue 06-Feb-24 17:26:15

SheepyIzzy

But, unlike many others, treatment is instant?? How many people, who rely on the NHS, HAVE to WAIT to see a specialist? Cancer is horrible for anyone, but you can be sure, he'll get better treatment than those who are the same age, younger or older, who can't afford to go private.

you can be sure Not necessarily.

Yes, an unpleasant post and not called for..

Callistemon21 Tue 06-Feb-24 17:28:32

GrannyGravy13

SheepyIzzy

But, unlike many others, treatment is instant?? How many people, who rely on the NHS, HAVE to WAIT to see a specialist? Cancer is horrible for anyone, but you can be sure, he'll get better treatment than those who are the same age, younger or older, who can't afford to go private.

Totally disagree.

In November 2023, DH was seen by GP, referred to hospital for biopsy, got results all within two weeks, on the NHS.

We were fortunate as it was not cancerous.

DH went for investigation, tests done and in the same day, operated on two days later. NHS.

Mind you, the care immediately afterwards left something to be desired.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Feb-24 17:29:45

I just want him to be able to have treatment in a dignified manner with media speculation and nosey parkerism kept to a minimum. Still, the paparazzi will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of getting candid snaps of him for the edification of the great British public.

merlotgran Tue 06-Feb-24 17:37:25

Parsley3

I just want him to be able to have treatment in a dignified manner with media speculation and nosey parkerism kept to a minimum. Still, the paparazzi will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of getting candid snaps of him for the edification of the great British public.

And what sort of snaps do you have in mind?

I think you are underestimating the sympathy and understanding of the great British public.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Feb-24 17:38:41

But not the traits of the gutter press.

SheepyIzzy Tue 06-Feb-24 17:48:14

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

Anniebach Tue 06-Feb-24 17:51:21

Which country are you living in Parsley3 ? .

annsixty Tue 06-Feb-24 17:58:56

I will admit this was some years ago but I was seen on Dec 1st.
Diagnosis given on Dec 8th. Operated on Dec 15th.
Started Radiotherapy in February.
All NHS, followed up for over 10 years.

Cossy Tue 06-Feb-24 18:04:31

SheepyIzzy

Quicker treatment, but unlikely to be better.

He is King!

Both myself and husband have had cancer scared (luckily not cancer) we were both fast tracked. My husband this year, me about 6 years ago.

Many many of us get great treatment on our NHS.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Feb-24 18:12:42

No, SheepIzzy, he is not lucky. He has cancer. I’m sorry if your mum has problems but our experience of the NHS has been if it’s suspected, it’s investigated quickly. So perhaps the medics don’t believe your mum has cancer. Anyway this thread is not about anyone other than the King and this is not the place for complaints about the NHS.

grannypiper Tue 06-Feb-24 18:19:12

Blood was discovered when my DH sent his poo test stick back in September , he had a colonoscopy within 4 weeks ( delayed due to another health condition) and polyps removed. by mid November we had the call to say it cancer, within days he had his first scan and appointment with the consultant and by the 13 December we were told he was cancer free. He has had another colonoscopy since and blood tests and will have this done every 3 months. The nurses call every week just to check we are both doing ok. All of this on the NHS.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Feb-24 18:41:37

Germanshepherdsmum

But not the traits of the gutter press.

The gutter press justify their actions by saying that it is what the public want. It isn't. I hope the king makes a good recovery.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Feb-24 18:46:57

Listening to Chris Ship the Royal correspondent on the news discussing the family rift. We don't need to know how long father and son met, where the son is now or whether he will meet his brother, do we?

Anniebach Tue 06-Feb-24 18:49:24

No, he will write about it in his next book

Parsley3 Tue 06-Feb-24 18:51:32

Who will?

Iam64 Tue 06-Feb-24 18:56:18

My husband’s stage 4, metastasised cancer was only identified after slight stomach discomfort was disturbing his sleep - occasionally. We were told palliative care only, possible life expectancy 6 months. We were devastated, he did a ten mile walk the day before diagnosis.
Treatment was delayed as they struggled to identify the primary. Once they’d done this (endless biopsies/scans etc) he had radiotherapy to blitz the brain tumours and immunotherapy to stop the cancers in his bones, lungs, stomach, lymph etc etc growing and spreading. 3 months in, scans showed the 6 brain tumours were shrunk, the other cancers had shrunk or stopped growing. We were nhs treated at Manchester’s Christie Hospital, the equivalent of London’s Marsden, where I expect the King is being treated.
So - all that hugely expensive treatment in the NHS for my lovely husband, despite ‘palliative care only’. Staff were without exception professional, highly skilled, totally up to date on research and had good people skills.
Sadly, the radiotherapy wrecked my husband’s carotid arteries. He died 6 months to the day after diagnosis, after a series of catastrophic strokes. However, he and we, lived those special 6 months with love and joy.
Whatever lies ahead for KC and his loved ones, I hope they make the best they can of their time together

Iam64 Tue 06-Feb-24 18:57:16

Annie, with the greatest respect and affection, please stop this.

Calendargirl Tue 06-Feb-24 19:07:57

I was struck, seeing some shots of Charles at church on Sunday, how like Prince Philip he is getting to look.

Anniebach Tue 06-Feb-24 19:08:44

Iam with the greatest respect and affection i replied politely to a question

Casdon Tue 06-Feb-24 19:11:21

SheepyIzzy

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

I’m not sure you understand how the NHS works SheepyIzzy. If you undergo an operation and a cancer is discovered you are prioritised for treatment, you jump to the top of the list because it is a definitive diagnosis. That isn’t exclusive to kings, or people receiving private treatment.

Calipso Tue 06-Feb-24 19:16:47

@SheepyIzzy
I'm sorry that your Mum's care hasn't been what you expect but what you claim as fact is incorrect. My DD had a shocking cancer diagnosis in the autumn and from initial provisional diagnosis, the speed at which investigations were initiated and a plan for treatment devised was breathtaking and treatment was started as soon as a treatment plan was in place. Much like King Charles but provided by the NHS.
Since then, Mother Nature has lobbed another curved ball and my DH has also had a cancer diagnosis, discovered by chance when he had a routine prostate check though, like the King, nothing to do with his prostate. His care and treatment plan is nothing like as urgent as our daughter's but faultless nonetheless. I am a fierce critic of some elements of the NHS but let's be real, private care wouldn't have been of any benefit whatsoever to our family these past few months.

Iam64 Tue 06-Feb-24 19:22:39

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well