King Charles

Casdon

SheepyIzzy

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

I’m not sure you understand how the NHS works SheepyIzzy. If you undergo an operation and a cancer is discovered you are prioritised for treatment, you jump to the top of the list because it is a definitive diagnosis. That isn’t exclusive to kings, or people receiving private treatment.

Quite right, Casdon.

Two years waiting to see a Consultant if cancer is suspected?
I'm afraid I find that unbelievable.

Iam64

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well

Absolutely 👍🏻

Iam64

Posts here seem to confirm that when we really need it, our nhs is working well

I think it works well in emergencies but some waiting lists eg for orthopaedic surgery, are years rather than months long.

The GP system is on the verge of breaking down too.

I agree Callistemon, General Practice is really struggling.
I need a hernia removed. My GP said it will be a very long wait. I’ve now been referred via the nhs to our local private hospital - 4 month wait there.
My appointment to see my GP involved a two week wait.

Cossy

Many many of us get great treatment on our NHS.

Absolutely.

It is worth saying that being privileged and able to afford private medical care does not necessarily guarantee you will have a better outcome from your treatment.

In fact (and I have mentioned this before) my own NHS consultant-surgeon told me that there are surgeries - complex and potentially risky operations - that some surgeons will not perform privately. This is for two reasons - if the surgery fails, the surgeon runs the risk of litigation, and it could also damage his reputation.

This particular surgeon performed precarious surgery on both me and another elderly lady in the same NHS ward as me. Mine was so complex that he had to pause half way through to consult with colleagues on how to proceed. It is questionable if these surgeries would have been carried out privately.

Whatever the failings of the NHS, they are not due to our being a monarchy, and the speed of diagnosis and treatment afforded the King, has - as others have pointed out - also been matched by the NHS (as was mine). Regional variations and failures are the fault of the system and other complex issues, which are a separate matter.

SheepIzzy

very lucky isn't he
No-one receiving a cancer diagnosis is 'lucky'.

privilege gets you treated extra faster
Some cancers are more easily and quickly identified than others and don't necessarily require various multiple procedures to determine them.

I think you should take up your mother's case with the Patient Liaison Service to find out what is going on.

Poor thing,he looks so unwell. Reminds me of the Queen,so frail and yet still carrying on.

He looked very well when last seen attending Church at Sandringham. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

Seriously, what on earth us wrong with you?

I think the poor man looks unwell and has done for some time.

I too thought he looked unwell at Sandringham last weekend. He has certainly lost weight.

Nothing is wrong with me but I question your eyesight.

Leaving for Sandringham today,his nose was red his eyes watery, perhaps after treatment, I don’t know

I think he and Camilla are trying to put a brave face on it all but they both look upset. No wonder, poor man.

They’ll be dealing with all the distress and anxiety this kind of unexpected diagnosis brings. Being privileged financially might help in some ways but they’re human like the rest of us

They were really smiling in the picture.

If he’s anything like me, my appetite disappears if I am worried about anything.

No doubt his prostate problem has been of concern for a while, and contributed to loss of weight.

Callistemon21

Casdon

SheepyIzzy

As per expected some of you dislike my post, well, so what? I have stated a simple fact that within days (according to the news) DAYS!!! Cancer was diagnosed and treatment started! Very lucky isnt he? DAYS!! My mum is STILL waiting for a consultation from a specialist (will be 2 years in March), we've had a 2nd specialist look at the case and apologise for the delay, she'll look into it and refer her...... We're still waiting! I've broken down on phone to GP about this, she's apologised, promised she would look into it....... We're still waiting.

Now if mum had HRH in front of her name, then she would be seen straight away.

That's all I meant, privilege gets you treated extra faster.

I’m not sure you understand how the NHS works SheepyIzzy. If you undergo an operation and a cancer is discovered you are prioritised for treatment, you jump to the top of the list because it is a definitive diagnosis. That isn’t exclusive to kings, or people receiving private treatment.

Quite right, Casdon.

Two years waiting to see a Consultant if cancer is suspected?
I'm afraid I find that unbelievable.

I find it hard to believe too, Callistemon. I had an appointment to see a consultant within a week of my GP suspecting that it was cancer, and so did my late husband. Each of us was in theatre for surgery two weeks after diagnosis, and my husband started chemotherapy (mine was judged not to need chemo or radiotherapy) as soon as his surgery wound was healed The only thing that could have been speeded up was him recognising his symptoms earlier - which he fatally failed to do - and seeing his GP. I have never heard of anyone who had to wait for two years for diagnosis.

This is from www.nhs.uk/conditions/cancer/

Waiting times

Accurately diagnosing cancer can take weeks or months. As cancer often develops slowly over several years, waiting for a few weeks will not usually impact on the effectiveness of treatment.
The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) has produced referral guidelines for suspected cancer.
You should not have to wait more than 2 weeks to see a specialist if your GP suspects you have cancer and urgently refers you.
In cases where cancer has been confirmed, you should not have to wait more than 31 days from the decision to treat to the start of treatment.
NHS England has more detailed statistics on cancer waiting times

And read this, about new changes to those times:-

news.cancerresearchuk.org/2023/08/17/breaking-down-nhs-englands-changes-in-standards-for-cancer-care/

Poor Kingy..he's done so much good whilst calmly awaiting his destiny for decades. (Yes he made mistakes along the way, so who hasn't?) But this is a bitter blow; despite the evil emotional battering from his younger son, he was doing so much to change the old chilly ways of the monarchy and now he's having to take a back seat again. Wish him well.

Kate1949

They were really smiling in the picture.

Was that today or an older news clip?

Today

Thanks Kate

Cameras everywhere! ☹

Yes indeed.

It’s good they have gone to Sandringham he loves the countryside and the Queen has always been country

YesAnniebach I hope he finds some healing in the countryside he loves.

Yes, hopefully he can find some peace and respite in the countryside. It would be nice if he could have his treatment there instead of traveling to London each time

SheepyIzzy, I feel for you and understand how you must feel. My DMIL visited the Dr several times but it was only when she collapsed she was found to have a tumour despite all the signs having been there for ages. The emergency care was great but it all went downhill from there. She never got to see the oncologist because things were so appallingly handled. It was 2 months after her funeral we got a call to ask if she would still like an appointment.
My son now has 2 forms of treatment and, at first, we were so thrilled with the speed of the tests. However, we were told it wasn't cancer so things slowed down and then later that it was but not to worry because it was unlikely to spread. Now they say he has a second more spreadable one which they found when they removed the first lump. I strongly suspect that fiasco wouldn't happened had Charles been the patient!
Whilst I don't wish any ill on Charles, I do understand anybody who hasn't had the wonderful treatment he's had on the NHS feeling somewhat resentful.