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Sunak intervening to prevent end to doctors strikes

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Cadenza123 Tue 06-Feb-24 19:19:45

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/06/rishi-sunak-accused-of-personally-holding-up-deal-to-end-doctors-strikes?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Why would he do that? Bearing in mind the impact on waiting lists etc.

Optomistic1 Fri 09-Feb-24 13:57:57

As I have commented before the BMA are blatantly lying when they say that junior drs earn £14 an hour. They have to work nights so automatically get the 37% pay up lift and as a retired director in the NHS any doctor who works over 40 get paid for it ( yes including consultants)

As someone else commented you don’t see any poor consultants and junior drs who many choose to work extra hours are also raking it in.

This is a political stunt by the left wing BMA and is disgusting using patients as pawns.

Optomistic1 Fri 09-Feb-24 13:59:13

Read the end of the article.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 09-Feb-24 13:59:35

I have to agree. They won’t even submit the increase which has been offered to their members for a vote.

joycerousselot123 Fri 09-Feb-24 14:33:55

Anyone in their right mind can see that the kind of delays for all stages of health care has to mean there just aren't enough people to cope with the volume of patients. Surely most people would be prepared to pay extra taxes to pay for this. If not, a combination of NHS private medical care without the exorbitant cost of fully private. Nobody likes higher taxation but under the current circumstances, I can't see anyway forward.

I have a son with stage 4 kidney/spinal cancer. He was prescribed paracetamol for 18 months by his GP and 4 other doctors. Then an MRI was prescribed but there was a 3 month waiting list. I took him to France and his MRI took 3 days. After 2 more days he was in surgery. Now, he is paralysed from the waist down. If the GP had recognized the symptoms at the beginning he could have been saved all the pain and drugs needed now.

Again, in France, I myself fell but went directly from the ambulance straight into Emergency and 1 hour later folowed by X'Rays,and RMI done the same day and the replacement operation the next day.

I remember the NHS back in the 60/80s when itranked ongst the top in the world. Currently we rank 19th out of 2 national health care systems across Europe Maybe we should be comparing with developing nations ?

Seagull72 Fri 09-Feb-24 14:53:50

The party of millionaires is completely out of touch with people’s everyday lives as they can pay for their healthcare. No empathy at all just trying to con people into voting for them.

ronib Fri 09-Feb-24 15:02:11

The BMA is even more out of it.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 09-Feb-24 15:03:12

Seagull72

The party of millionaires is completely out of touch with people’s everyday lives as they can pay for their healthcare. No empathy at all just trying to con people into voting for them.

Well I hope you are not banking on the Labour Party saving the NHS…

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 09-Feb-24 15:22:10

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Syracute Fri 09-Feb-24 15:39:50

Germanshepherdsmum

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Well status quo certainly isn’t working so a change could be a good chance of going forward ! After living in Germany and Switzerland the health care is very poor quality here in comparison.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Feb-24 15:49:28

Syracute

Germanshepherdsmum

Do you really think that everyone who belongs to or supports the Conservative Party can afford private healthcare? There are some millionaires among them and also a great many ordinary people.

If you think Labour will save the NHS you’re deluded.

Well status quo certainly isn’t working so a change could be a good chance of going forward ! After living in Germany and Switzerland the health care is very poor quality here in comparison.

But it is partly privatised in Switzerland, isn't it?

The term 'Private Healthcare' seems to upset many people in the UK.

Casdon Fri 09-Feb-24 15:50:39

The Labour Party saved and improved the NHS last time they were in power, I fully expect they will again. The issue is going to be how long it will take to do it, not whether their intention is to do so. The baseline is so much lower now than in was in 1997, so it will be an uphill struggle.

silverlining48 Fri 09-Feb-24 16:25:14

When the last labour government came into power the waiting lists for simple but vital surgery was years. 3 or 4 years for hip and knee surgery, 4 years for cataract and so it was.
Labour brought that down to manageable numbers but not in time for my mil who had to borrow £5000 to pay her cataract surgery costs.
So yes, I hope once again labour will be able to improve the dire situation we are in courtesy of this Tory government which seems to be grinding the NHS down while supporting those who are already wealthy so have no need to use the NHS. Unless they have an emergency that is.

ronib Fri 09-Feb-24 17:00:06

We have brilliant cataract services in our area. Thank you so much to CHEC. Not all services are nearly as good. CHEC is positioned in the shopping centre itself and is so efficient and streamlined.

Grantanow Sun 11-Feb-24 15:57:38

According to a 2023 House of Commons Library research paper about 40% of NHS patients waited longer than the 62 day target for cancer treatment after diagnosis since 2014. A 2020 article in the British Medical Journal stated that every month delayed in the treatment of 7 kinds of cancer can raise the risk of death by around 10%. The Tories have failed to staff and fund the NHS adequately over that time. Is this a service fit for a king?

mabon2 Sun 11-Feb-24 16:57:03

He IS a terrible Prime Minster.

Iam64 Sun 11-Feb-24 17:15:30

Grantanow, no it isn’t fit for a king or anyone waiting for their primary cancer to be identified with the right treatment to follow