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So, our Home Office celebrates World Hajib Day ??

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Urmstongran Sat 10-Feb-24 15:03:06

WTF?
Let's not forget the young girl beaten to death in Iran for not seeing the benefits of the Hijab.

Dickens Mon 12-Feb-24 09:12:37

Galaxy

Yes. Choicey choice feminism. That's been brilliant for women. It's amazing how these choices all seem to benefit men.

Yes - from the now traditional 'red-carpet' attire at film premieres, etc, women uniformly wear the tightest, 'skimpiest', most revealing outfits... the 'moguls' of the media, entertainment and fashion worlds are, largely, men.

The pressure to conform to this way of dressing is subtle, but it is oppressive - in the same way that certain cultures adorn their pre-pubescent girls in the hijab and who then, as adults, feel pressured or are conditioned, to continue wearing them..

The common denominator is - men. The dichotomy is that one group are dressing in a way that will attract the 'male gaze' and the other group in a way that avoids it.

I wonder how women would dress, what they would wear, if they genuinely dressed simply to please themselves?

Grantanow Mon 12-Feb-24 09:13:45

And this helps the asylum backlog how?

growstuff Mon 12-Feb-24 10:38:00

Dickens

Galaxy

Yes. Choicey choice feminism. That's been brilliant for women. It's amazing how these choices all seem to benefit men.

Yes - from the now traditional 'red-carpet' attire at film premieres, etc, women uniformly wear the tightest, 'skimpiest', most revealing outfits... the 'moguls' of the media, entertainment and fashion worlds are, largely, men.

The pressure to conform to this way of dressing is subtle, but it is oppressive - in the same way that certain cultures adorn their pre-pubescent girls in the hijab and who then, as adults, feel pressured or are conditioned, to continue wearing them..

The common denominator is - men. The dichotomy is that one group are dressing in a way that will attract the 'male gaze' and the other group in a way that avoids it.

I wonder how women would dress, what they would wear, if they genuinely dressed simply to please themselves?

Bra-less, maybe even naked in Summer! wink

MissAdventure Mon 12-Feb-24 10:40:37

Oh I'd have to wear a vest and knickers!!!

growstuff Mon 12-Feb-24 10:40:40

Ali23

VioletSky

Women should get to wear what they want

If a woman chooses to wear it, respect her choice

If a woman chooses not to, respect her choice

It's simple

I agree with this wholeheartedly.
I have known muslim women who wear the hijab and feel that it’s part of their identity. And the hijab can be very beautiful.
Not everyone wears it because they are coerced.

My dentist wears a hijab. As I spend a few minutes staring at her face, I can't help noticing how beautiful she is. Fantastic skin, amazing eyes and immaculate make-up.

Glorianny Mon 12-Feb-24 14:40:14

When my hair is a mess and I really can't be bothered to go and get it cut I sometimes think a hijab would be useful. Instead I pull on a woolly hat, but you can't keep that on all the time!!!

MissAdventure Mon 12-Feb-24 15:28:20

I was very friendly with a Muslim lady online, a good few years ago, and she said that under her cover up, Muslim clothes, she would have on her pyjamas on the school run.

She had covered her face at some times during her life, and not at others.
Her choice, and I believed her: she was very strong minded.

She also divorced her first husband for infidelity.

Cossy Mon 12-Feb-24 15:49:57

Kandinsky

Why doesn't this surprise me they celebrate everything that's alien to Britain

Wait till Labour get in. It will get 100x worse.

Very doubtful says I, a CS throughout this govt reign, thankfully and gratefully retired!

growstuff Mon 12-Feb-24 15:52:36

My daughter had two wedding ceremonies. The first was an Arab nikah in a mosque. She covered her head for the nikah and her husband wore full Arab dress with a turban-like head covering (don't know what it's called officially). They both looked absolutely stunning. The second was a civil wedding in a hotel and both wore "traditional" western wedding outfits and looked stunning again. Neither believes in any god. They wore what they did as a sign of respect to their relatives and to their cultural backgrounds - and we all had an amazing time during both weddings and have unforgettable memories.

growstuff Mon 12-Feb-24 15:53:35

Cossy

Kandinsky

Why doesn't this surprise me they celebrate everything that's alien to Britain

Wait till Labour get in. It will get 100x worse.

Very doubtful says I, a CS throughout this govt reign, thankfully and gratefully retired!

Errrmm ... "they" celebrate a lot which isn't alien to Britain too.

caknib Mon 12-Feb-24 16:37:49

Oh I don't know about these mysterious they and their celebrations. Is 'they' Muslims? All Muslims?

Quite a few of 'they' celebrate all sorts of things. Some non they,don't celebrate Christian festivals.

Chestnut Mon 12-Feb-24 16:57:28

caknib

Oh I don't know about these mysterious they and their celebrations. Is 'they' Muslims? All Muslims?

Quite a few of 'they' celebrate all sorts of things. Some non they,don't celebrate Christian festivals.

'They' is actually the Home Office. Maybe check the thread before twisting the meaning of what someone has said.

caknib Mon 12-Feb-24 17:17:11

So they,The Home Office are celebrating everything that's alien to Britain?

Like what? Chicken Balti?