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Azar Ali

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Mollygo Mon 12-Feb-24 18:27:24

Should he be allowed to stand for the LP in the Rochdale by-election after his remarks? Apologising doesn’t mean he doesn’t think exactly what he said.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:19:32

However, the educated, sophisticated, very, very wealthy men are not the ones who put their own lives in danger. They rely on the youths to do that, of course.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:22:18

What is acceptable?

None of it, foxie48, absolutely none of it.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:27:59

I don’t see it as revenge, it’s ongoing defence against terrorism,

Parsley3 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:40:39

I see it as revenge on both sides and there is no end to it.

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:46:40

Anniebach

Why oh why must the children card be played ? Hamas are certainly playing it.

Perhaps because children are dying. I don't care if Hamas are playing it, they are vile but we are not and the lives of innocent children matter.

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:47:24

Callistemon21

^What is acceptable?^

None of it, foxie48, absolutely none of it.

I totally agree with you.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:48:07

Yes children are dying, surely all lives matter

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:50:23

Anniebach

I don’t see it as revenge, it’s ongoing defence against terrorism,

So how does killing children and women defend the world against terrorism? Hamas doesn't care how many children, women, innocent Palestinians die. Why would they? I honestly don't understand your logic. Please explain.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:50:32

Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still

foxie48 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:54:04

Anniebach

Yes children are dying, surely all lives matter

Of course "all lives matter" I don't understand your point.

Iam64 Wed 14-Feb-24 20:58:15

I’m genuinely shocked that referring to the death of children can be called “playing the children card”

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 20:58:36

Women, children and men’s lives matter, unless you believe every man is a terrorist

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 21:00:13

Iam I am genuinely shocked that many disregard lives of
women and men

caknib Wed 14-Feb-24 21:15:13

foxie,you are wasting your time. Sadly this has become some sort of focus for various grudges,losses and boredom to play out.

Desperately sad but not as sad as writing your name on your family's legs so their bodies can be identified.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 21:18:33

Personal attacks yet again

petra Wed 14-Feb-24 21:58:43

Callistemon21

However, the educated, sophisticated, very, very wealthy men are not the ones who put their own lives in danger. They rely on the youths to do that, of course.

Just a reminder of how their beloved leaders live.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 22:09:46

petra 😲

That does not surprise me. The young men they use are just cannon fodder.

Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 22:16:00

Anniebach

Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still

I'm am surprised the police are doing nothing.

Do they not remember Ian Gow, Jo Cox, Sir David Amess and others?

cakmib Wed 14-Feb-24 22:22:09

No personal attack. Sad state of affairs for all.

Mollygo Wed 14-Feb-24 22:23:42

Callistemon21

Anniebach
Protesters at Tobias Ellwood’s still
I'm am surprised the police are doing nothing.

Do they not remember Ian Gow, Jo Cox, Sir David Amess and others?
It seems not.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 22:27:22

I am not bored, I do not have a grudge Cakmib

Casllistemon it’s baffling how they are allowed to line the road ,

Dickens Wed 14-Feb-24 22:29:34

Anniebach

Why oh why must the children card be played ? Hamas are certainly playing it.

It's not a card being played, Anniebach, it's despair... that humanity can slaughter its children who, regardless, of the war or its cause, are entirely innocent, who don't know why they're being butchered by Hamas, or bombed and shot at by Israel. They have no say, no voice, they rely on adults to protect them... and it's just heart breaking. Do you know why it's so grievous, so bad? Because there is absolutely nothing that children can do about what is happening and what has happened to them, they are completely and utterly defenceless.

To suggest that being upset about children - both Israeli and Palestinian - being maimed and killed is playing a 'card' is below the belt.

Anniebach Wed 14-Feb-24 22:34:40

Dickens yes children are being killed, I really don’t understand why their parents are never spoken of, where does these deaths leave children in poverty?

cakmib Wed 14-Feb-24 22:53:39

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Callistemon21 Wed 14-Feb-24 23:05:02

Reported.