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Islamaphobia is getting out of control

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 24-Feb-24 07:13:37

We have Braverman and Anderson stirring up the most awful Islamaphobia.

I don’t think that we have ever had British MPs saying such racist and hateful rhetoric since Mosely. They are being backed by the worst sort of editorship. It is so redolent of the 20s and 30s.

Jewish and Christian leaders are calling for it to stop, as well as Tories who see this as a disaster for their party, as it will never ever end well.

Rory Stewart

This idea that “London is in the grip of Islamists” is deluded and it’s awful - an obsession that thrives among a bizarre and dangerous coalition. No conservative MP should ever be spouting this stuff.

luluaugust Wed 06-Mar-24 10:31:13

The Jewush percentage is 0.5%.

M0nica Wed 06-Mar-24 10:43:56

maddyone DD and I went up to London last weekend. First we went to the exhibition at the Museum of London (Docklands) Fashion City - How Jewish Londoners shaped global style A great exhibition showing how the Jewish immigrants to London in the 19th and early 20th century, were behind nearly all the big companies in fashion from the 1930s onwards, then we went on to the V&A to see the Chanel exhibition, fantastic.

We didn't even see any graffiti supporting one side or the other in the Gaza conflict, we just had an enjoyable day out. following one of our interests, a good meal out (but very expensive). If you go up to London umless you go to the known demonstartion areas, which are generally well away from shops, museums and theatres, London is as safe as it has always been.

Aveline Wed 06-Mar-24 11:47:38

I suspect that a lot depends on where you live.

maddyone Wed 06-Mar-24 12:59:23

I’m pleased your trip went smoothly Monica, but I feel there are no guarantees. I’ve seen footage of unpleasant scenes even on the underground. I’ve booked Lion King in the Easter holidays for my grandson during the week.

Eloethan Wed 06-Mar-24 15:00:37

I go into Central London fairly frequently and have been there when Gaza demonstrations were in progress. I saw nothing to alarm me, or anyone else.

I feel sure that if you had relatives in Gaza you would want to ensure that what is happening is brought to the forefront of everyone's mind. Why are there no voices protesting about the 30,000+ deaths (the majority being women and children), the 70,000+ injuries, the starvation of thousands of people being pushed from pillar to post, the destruction of hospitals and what appears to be the targeting of many journalists and emergency workers?

Cossy Wed 06-Mar-24 15:16:09

M0nica

maddyone DD and I went up to London last weekend. First we went to the exhibition at the Museum of London (Docklands) Fashion City - How Jewish Londoners shaped global style A great exhibition showing how the Jewish immigrants to London in the 19th and early 20th century, were behind nearly all the big companies in fashion from the 1930s onwards, then we went on to the V&A to see the Chanel exhibition, fantastic.

We didn't even see any graffiti supporting one side or the other in the Gaza conflict, we just had an enjoyable day out. following one of our interests, a good meal out (but very expensive). If you go up to London umless you go to the known demonstartion areas, which are generally well away from shops, museums and theatres, London is as safe as it has always been.

I agree

Cossy Wed 06-Mar-24 15:19:34

maddyone

I’m pleased your trip went smoothly Monica, but I feel there are no guarantees. I’ve seen footage of unpleasant scenes even on the underground. I’ve booked Lion King in the Easter holidays for my grandson during the week.

The trouble with viewing footage or media is that it’s possible to highly edit it and scaremonger or use it to fit an agenda.

Hope you and your DGS really enjoy your trip and the theatre.

Our 9 year old GS regularly visits London with his parents, both of whom work in different locations in London, and are always safe and sound, as are both my sons who visit in a regular basis for both work and leisure.

Anniebach Wed 06-Mar-24 16:52:55

Three say no problem so must be true !

Iam64 Wed 06-Mar-24 18:48:36

I’ve not been on a March since the Not in my Name opposition to the invasion of Iraq. That march ( we went to Glasgow rather than London) was like every other I’ve joined, peaceful and full of people from different countries, view points but joined together in shared concern.
I’ve no reason to believe the majority on our marches on the war in Gaza are any different than we were

Anniebach Wed 06-Mar-24 19:36:24

What size majority

paddyann54 Wed 06-Mar-24 23:15:58

I've been on hundreds of marches in almost 6 decades and have never seen trouble at any of them.The independence marches are like parties ,singing,dancing in the streets bands from all cultures usually a pipe on and a bangra drum group and just folk who are all like minded getting together to show support for our cause.Am I sorry if it offends anyone...not a bit our opinions are dismissed and ignored every day of every year by the Unionist parties,its good to be heard for a change

Joseann Thu 07-Mar-24 08:35:18

I think any large group of people - marching, chanting, shouting, or whatever - can be a bit disconcerting, especially in confined spaces. The thing about London, as with other major cities, is that it has always been a prime location for terrorist attacks. I am not afraid in London when there are marches, but I do feel somehow less confident pushing my way through marchers to get past. Occasionally when the alarm went off in a tube station, or when the bomb curtain was dropped at Westfield, or when a knife was thrown on the platform from a bridge in Leyton, I would gulp and freeze for a second. But I don't remember that at that moment I instantly associated the danger with Islam, although sadly a lot of the attacks turned out indeed to be related to that cause. I guess it's difficult to separate the two in my mind.

Iam64 Thu 07-Mar-24 13:09:38

Joseann that’s a valid point relating to the current regular pro Palestinian, anti Israeli marches imo. Particularly when some marchers cover their faces. I expected i might be photographed at Greenham or on other marches. Where’s the problem