Islamaphobia is getting out of control

Anniebach

Glorrianny do stop twisting things, Rachel Reeves was canvassing for the Labour Party, a group of women followed her demanding she speak to them, she was working, she asked if they were from her constituency, reply - ‘no, I am a Muslim,
a tax payer , I live in this country’ , Rachel tried to speak to them. They followed her until she had to get in her car,

I've watched the video. She didn't try to speak to them. She refused to answer their questions and walked away. She was followed but never threatened, One woman kept asking questions. None of the others participated. The question should be when did MPs become so afraid of answering a question in the street? Quite why couldn't Rachel Reeves answer? Was she afraid in case she said something out of step with the party line?

Where is the far-right thuggery? All I see on the news is hordes of young Islamic men marching in London, hurling death threats at Jews and anybody else who doesn't agree with them. The police just stand and watch them

You must know by now that ‘the far right’ is only white people ( or tories ) ditto they’re the only ones capable of any ‘thuggish’ behaviour.

Why the left aren’t taken seriously.

Whitewavemark2

foxie48

I totally agree WWM.

With regard to Truss, I heard part of the interview that she gave in the US. She really has gone bonkers, some of the things she was saying beggars belief. It would be amusing except that she was actually our PM, albeit for a very short time. I wonder what those who voted for her think now, she has become worryingly odd, I'm actually concerned for her mental health.

She knows exactly what she is saying. She has aligned herself with characters like Steve Bannon, white supremicists and the proud boys.

An ex UK ( short lived) PM! I despair.

Being a muslim doesn't mean being a particular race, so how can it be racism?

You are joking I presume. Have you forgotten the attempt to hijack the cenotaph on Armistice Day?
Extreme right is on the rise in the UK, as it is in the rest of Europe. This is worth a watch, from BBC
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2AQKNpL5k
Alternatively just Google, there are plenty of far right acts taking place all the time.
I believe most people will condemn extremist acts wherever they are coming from, and I don’t get why you want to turn this into a left versus right argument?

Casdon

You are joking I presume. Have you forgotten the attempt to hijack the cenotaph on Armistice Day?
Extreme right is on the rise in the UK, as it is in the rest of Europe. This is worth a watch, from BBC
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2AQKNpL5k
Alternatively just Google, there are plenty of far right acts taking place all the time.
I believe most people will condemn extremist acts wherever they are coming from, and I don’t get why you want to turn this into a left versus right argument?

Sorry, that was for meddijess and Kandinsky.

Anna Soubry was jostled and shouted at by brexiteers. I don't remember the same outcry about that.

11:59meddijess

Where is the far-right thuggery? All I see on the news is hordes of young Islamic men marching in London, hurling death threats at Jews and anybody else who doesn't agree with them. The police just stand and watch them.

Precisely and do the so called far right thugs blow up hospitals and public places no they don't

Glorianny Sat 24-Feb-24 12:20:22
Anniebach
Glorrianny do stop twisting things, Rachel Reeves was canvassing for the Labour Party, a group of women followed her demanding she speak to them, she was working, she asked if they were from her constituency, reply - ‘no, I am a Muslim,
a tax payer , I live in this country’ , Rachel tried to speak to them. They followed her until she had to get in her car,
I've watched the video. She didn't try to speak to them. She refused to answer their questions and walked away. She was followed but never threatened, One woman kept asking questions. None of the others participated. The question should be when did MPs become so afraid of answering a question in the street? Quite why couldn't Rachel Reeves answer? Was she afraid in case she said something out of step with the party line?

Others participated, standing silently around someone and following them and videoing them is not acceptable, yet it is for you.
MP’s, surely must be wary when accosted on a street following threats

How many people have the so called far-right killed in the UK in the last 20 years?
How many buses, trains, music venues ( full of young people ) have they blown up?

Who killed Jo Cox Kandinsky?

Kandinsky

*"I don't actually believe that the Islamists have got control of our country, but what I do believe is they've got control of Khan, and they've got control of London," Mr Anderson said*

Well this could be true. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

Not sure how people can totally dismiss this statement - what 100% proof have you got that it’s not true?

Maybe we have family living in London who refute this inflammatory, untrue statement? Maybe we don't read the right wing red tops? Maybe we don't watch GB news?

12:56Kandinsky

None but the left don't like to talk about that do they. It's the usual trope (far right or racist) they like to shout out to stop debate.

Casdon

So one person.

Can you now tell me how many people Muslim extremists have killed.

I mean, you don’t have to tell me because I know it’s a lot more than one, but it’s just interesting seeing how you try and avoid the question.

Nicenanny3

11:59meddijess

Where is the far-right thuggery? All I see on the news is hordes of young Islamic men marching in London, hurling death threats at Jews and anybody else who doesn't agree with them. The police just stand and watch them.

*Precisely and do the so called far right thugs blow up hospitals and public places no they don't*

A reminder to you of Britain First's threats when Sadiq Khan was first elected as Mayor of London in 2016:

"The far-right group Britain First has threatened to target where Sadiq Khan “lives, works and prays” as part of their apparent organised action against British Muslim politicians.

In a press release, the “loyalist” group claim they specialise in direct action which they will use against Mr Khan.

The group's leader Paul Golding, who ran for Mayor of London and scored abysmally gaining 31,372 first preference votes compared to Mr Khan’s 1,148,716, has made his feelings clear about Mr Khan before, having been pictured with his back turned when the newly appointed Mayor gave his victory speech earlier this month.

In the release, Mr Golding says: “Britain First specialises in militant direct action and has tracked down and confronted numerous hate preachers and terrorists.

“Britain First now considers all Muslim elected officials as ‘occupiers’ and will start to oppose their strategy of entryism and take-over of our political system.”

Citing the apparent “intelligence” they receive, the group pledges to “focus on all aspects of their day-to-day lives and official functions, including where they live, work, pray and so on”.

The statement concludes by reminding readers of their “official” policy to ban Islam in the UK and say they will “not stop until all Islamist occupiers are driven out of politics completely”.

The group’s “direct action” has previously included “invading” a Halal meat factory, the Islamic Sharia Council in east London and bombarding their way through a mosque.
As well as Mr Khan, the group mentions fellow ‘targets’ Tory business minister Sajid Javid, the mayor of Oxford Mohammed Altaf-Khan, the mayor of Blackburn Hussain Akhtar and also Shafique Shah who they say is the mayor of Birmingham.

However, Mr Shah is not the mayor of Birmingham anymore. Ray Hassall is.

A representative for Mr Khan did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sadiq-khan-britain-first-london-mayor-threaten-direct-action-a7047991.html

nanna8

Is the Jewish community that small? Or is it because the Jewish people don’t always want to let people know they are Jewish because they fear persecution and discrimination?

the figures are based on the last census.

Kandinsky

Casdon

So one person.

Can you now tell me how many people Muslim extremists have killed.

Can you tell me how many far-right thugs have been charged with hate crimes?

I think the far right also drove into a crowd at a mosque killing one person and injuring others.
I think in recent years if you are talking deaths in the UK from the far right it is quite low. I think a number of plots have been intercepted, its possible they are really useless as well as immoral.
But from what I can see the numbers of deaths in this country are thankfully low.

MissAdventure

Being a muslim doesn't mean being a particular race, so how can it be racism?

There is only one race - the human race.

However, it's true that Muslims aren't one nationality.

No, not just one person, that was just one glaring example that I couldn’t understand how you had missed. Remember Finsbury Park mosque?
You can’t conflate Islamic extremism with the violence by the far left of the Labour Party either. Islamic extremists are the far right arm of their religion. The far left of the Labour Party (which is vocal but small in both numbers and influence) sympathise with some of their goals, but most Labour Party supporters don’t support violent action, as I’m sure most Tory supporters don’t either. Why are you turning this into a political battle anyway, two wrongs never make a right, do they?

I cannot believe anyone here who states that there is no “far right thuggery”! Do you not watch the news ever? Have you not heard of Tommy Robinson or whatever he calls himself now? Britain First? Nothing makes terrorism right, nothing, whatever the reason, sadly though there will always be financial supporters of terrorists, the IRA and the USA are prime examples. The far right are a growing mass across Europe and the USA and are just as dangerous as any other group.

It’s awful, but the statement “one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist” still stands true.

I pray for peace worldwide, though I know this is unlikely!

Question being avoided again.

Muslim extremists can blow up innocent people and it’s almost overlooked, swept under the carpet. And I’ll never know why some people are doing that.

The Jewish community here where I live is large, and certainly not hidden away.
Strange, considering a programme was made to show that we are all a bunch of union Jack wearing, knuckle draggers.
It seems it would fit the narrative to say there is tension, bit there isn't.

Kandinsky

Question being avoided again.

Muslim extremists can blow up innocent people and it’s almost overlooked, swept under the carpet. And I’ll never know why some people are doing that.

Who is avoiding what question? Has anybody said they don’t condemn Islamic terrorism?