The new Rwanda Plan

Why don’t they just wreck the boats, let France pay us for every immigrant that comes illegally. It’s a joke, we pay them for what? It’s got to be proper route to get here or not at all. We cannot take any more. Everyone thoroughly cheesed of with the floods of people coming here, if you care take a family, this pathetic government how on earth will Rwanda work, so few people at the end of it, what a waste of millions, but has labour ever had a suggestion or view on anything or can they only ridicule, no wonder out of the last 100 plus years they have actually held power just over 30 years, it’s because really they don’t want the effort involved as then they have to make a decision before they clear the coffers out which they invariably do.Screaming Looney party could have done a better job. Does anyone vote for total apathy, spoil the paper or vote for the one that are marginally interested in our country although they are making a hash of it,

MaizieD

A reminder.

If any asylum seekers are actually sent to Rwanda, if the full 300 are sent, each of those deported will have cost the UK £1.8million.

The 'threat' of being sent to Rwanda will never be a deterrent because the chance of being singled out to be sent off from the thousands already in the UK is minimal, and will become even more minimal as more asylum seekers arrive in small boats to swell the backlog...

Best practice of course would be to forget the backlog for now. Deal with them going forward. (Probably an amnesty anyway as most of them get to stay - unlike France who are much more robust in saying ‘non’). Instead apply new rules to every dinghy arrival of migrant. One night sleep, soup, sandwich, water and a blanket then next morning onto a plane to Rwanda.
Word would get round quickly enough. The migrants would ring their mates saying ‘don’t bother paying the smugglers all you get here is deportation the day after arrival’.

Now that WOULD be a deterrent.

Urmstongran

MaizieD

A reminder.

If any asylum seekers are actually sent to Rwanda, if the full 300 are sent, each of those deported will have cost the UK £1.8million.

The 'threat' of being sent to Rwanda will never be a deterrent because the chance of being singled out to be sent off from the thousands already in the UK is minimal, and will become even more minimal as more asylum seekers arrive in small boats to swell the backlog...

Best practice of course would be to forget the backlog for now. Deal with them going forward. (Probably an amnesty anyway as most of them get to stay - unlike France who are much more robust in saying ‘non’). Instead apply new rules to every dinghy arrival of migrant. One night sleep, soup, sandwich, water and a blanket then next morning onto a plane to Rwanda.
Word would get round quickly enough. The migrants would ring their mates saying ‘don’t bother paying the smugglers all you get here is deportation the day after arrival’.

Now that WOULD be a deterrent.

From the BBC website
Previously released official figures suggested that removing each individual to a third country would cost £63,000 more than keeping them in the UK.
The prime minister previously claimed that the Rwanda plan would "literally save us billions in the long run", but did not explain the figures.
‘The UK's asylum system costs nearly £4bn a year, including about £8m a day on hotel accommodation.
Failure to process asylum claims efficiently "has led to unacceptable costs to the taxpayer", a report by MPs said in October 2023.’
I believe that, now the Rwanda bill has been passed we’ve had to pay Rwanda another huge sum of money, many millions.

Urmstongran

MaizieD

A reminder.

If any asylum seekers are actually sent to Rwanda, if the full 300 are sent, each of those deported will have cost the UK £1.8million.

The 'threat' of being sent to Rwanda will never be a deterrent because the chance of being singled out to be sent off from the thousands already in the UK is minimal, and will become even more minimal as more asylum seekers arrive in small boats to swell the backlog...

Best practice of course would be to forget the backlog for now. Deal with them going forward. (Probably an amnesty anyway as most of them get to stay - unlike France who are much more robust in saying ‘non’). Instead apply new rules to every dinghy arrival of migrant. One night sleep, soup, sandwich, water and a blanket then next morning onto a plane to Rwanda.
Word would get round quickly enough. The migrants would ring their mates saying ‘don’t bother paying the smugglers all you get here is deportation the day after arrival’.

Now that WOULD be a deterrent.

As Rwanda are only taking 300 (and we're getting some of their refugees in exchange) your idea is just simplistic nonsense.

As with so many things the problem is having a government that tries to use simplistic solutions to what are very complicated problems and they don’t even try to get to the grass roots of the problems. Just try to put sticking plasters over the end results.

We have to start somewhere MaizieD surely?

Let's start with quicker processing (including centres in Europe for asylum claims) and far more co-operation with European partners to tackle the people smugglers. Sending people to Rwanda I think was originally a quick fix attempt - that has turned out to be anything but.

Allsorts
Everyone thoroughly cheesed of with the floods of people coming here

You speak for everyone? You don’t speak for me, and there are not ‘floods’ of people coming here. Also, your argument makes very incoherent reading - punctuation might enable you to explain yourself better.

As Rwanda are only taking 300 (and we're getting some of their refugees in exchange) your idea is just simplistic nonsense.

👏👏👏 MaizieD

How many people can be relocated to Rwanda?
The arrangement to relocate individuals to Rwanda is uncapped. Rwanda has plans in place to scale up provision to take in as many relocated individuals as required. (from government website today)

It’s capped Nicenanny3, to how many people this government can send there before they lose office. If it’s more than 300 I’d be surprised.

It is NET 200 as we will be taking asylum seekers fro Rwanda.

The whole business is a nonsense.

Why not just make it clear to these migrants that anyone turning up here illegally, either by boat or the back of a lorry will automatically be banned from seeking asylum?

If every European country adopted the same policy, migration should drastically slow down and then stop.

The European continent, including the UK, needs to face the fact that the continent is a very attractive proposition for potentially millions of people who wish to move, from countries like Africa, the Middle East and Asia.

With warmer summer weather and calmer sea conditions just around the corner, action is needed now.

The entire European culture is under threat from a flood of migrants who don’t share our values.

"......*who don’t share our values*."

Which values? We all have very different ones, just read around GN.

Which values? We all have very different ones, just read around GN.

Exactly Wyllow3! There are some posters on GN with whom I do NOT share values.

Station the navy in the channel and catch the people smugglers. Send them back to France . Not rocket science and the channel isn’t that big.

"Britain can no longer return Channel migrants to France because of Brexit, Lord Cameron has indicated. The Foreign Secretary said a migrant returns agreement with France to help break up smuggling gangs and stop people making the perilous journey across the Channel was “simply not possible”.

source - Telegraph, 19 hours ago.

Wyllow3

"Britain can no longer return Channel migrants to France because of Brexit, Lord Cameron has indicated. The Foreign Secretary said a migrant returns agreement with France to help break up smuggling gangs and stop people making the perilous journey across the Channel was “simply not possible”.

source - Telegraph, 19 hours ago.

Why do we need an agreement? They pocket around £500m to stop the boats and aren't honouring that. All trying to enter illegally should be put straight onto a boat and back to France. That would be more of a deterrent than the Rwanda plan, again costing us millions and nobody has gone there yet. What a lame bunch we have in charge and have for many a year. David 'taking my ball home because I didn't get my own way' Cameron must love blaming Brexit for something.

I agree they should be sent straight back to France but with this government and Labour (they will be worse) it's not going to happen. What really annoys me is RNLI and our joke of a Border Force rushing to pick them up when they enter British waters like a taxi service why not leave them it's their choice to put themselves in a dinghy and before the usual posters pile in with have you no compassion blah blah blah, well obviously I don't.

nanna8

Station the navy in the channel and catch the people smugglers. Send them back to France . Not rocket science and the channel isn’t that big.

I really don't see why France has to have them back. Even if it would please some xenophobic old grannies...

Asylum seekers are entitled to claim asylum in whatever country they like..

"Send them back to France, they should stay in the first safe country, why not leave them it's their decision to put themselves in a dinghy, they don't share our values..."
If those comments are an expression of "our values" God help us.

Greta

"Send them back to France, they should stay in the first safe country, why not leave them it's their decision to put themselves in a dinghy, they don't share our values..."
If those comments are an expression of "our values" God help us.

Indeed!

Asylum seekers are pouring into Ireland because they have been put off the UK by the Rwanda policy, Ireland’s deputy prime minister has said.

Micheál Martin, who is a former Taoiseach, was speaking after the Irish government said more than 80 per cent of asylum seekers in Ireland had crossed the border from Northern Ireland.

He claimed Rishi Sunak’s “knee-jerk” policy to deport Channel migrants to Rwanda was already having a deterrent effect and encouraging asylum seekers to flee to Ireland.(The Telegraph today)

" flee" Interesting word

zakouma66

" flee" Interesting word

Flee means “run away”