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Joseann Fri 22-Mar-24 10:22:45

Is it really "playful" to change the national flag on the England kit? Or just someone trying to be clever?

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Mar-24 12:31:09

Why not start a campaign for a new national flag, Glorianny, if you dislike it so much?
Of course, the Union flag would have to be changed too but that might be a good thing as Wales could then be represented on it with the dragon.

Then the Scots will vote to leave the Union and it will have to be altered again.

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Glorianny Sat 23-Mar-24 15:20:23

Callistemon21

Why not start a campaign for a new national flag, Glorianny, if you dislike it so much?
Of course, the Union flag would have to be changed too but that might be a good thing as Wales could then be represented on it with the dragon.

Then the Scots will vote to leave the Union and it will have to be altered again.

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I have never said I dislike it. I simply find it amusing.
I understand why others dislike it

M0nica Sat 23-Mar-24 15:55:27

Thank goodness neither of my DGC are interested in football. We have none of these demands for football strip - and never have.

Mollygo Sat 23-Mar-24 16:25:46

Actually, the latest suggestion I’ve seen is to replace the 3 lions with 3pink flamingos. I dare say that would get support from

Joseann Sat 23-Mar-24 16:42:27

I really didn't intend this thread to be about people's spending habits on their leisure pursuits.
But as this aspect has been mentioned, I'd like to make it clear that my GS, and no doubt maddyone's and others', neither demands nor expects a new football kit. If we have the available money to make a child happy, then what is wrong?
Some young children are as passionate about football as others are about horse riding, playing instruments, canoeing or tennis etc. In the bigger picture, £100 on some football kit is actually quite a cheap outlay.
Surely our budding young athletes deserve the same kit as the competitors who inspire them, and if a relative can treat them, all well and good. Any interest in sport should be fostered and the benefits not underrated.
As an aside, my DD trained for entry to The Royal Ballet School back in the day when Darcey Bussell was her idol. All her pointe shoes, leotards, dance bags were hoped for by her, not demanded, from the Darcey range and we bought them despite the inflated prices. The other girls in class chose similar outfits. DGS is just doing the same but in the discipline he enjoys.

Lexisgranny Sat 23-Mar-24 16:46:21

Pleased to see that one of the younger players (under21?) solved the problem by turning his collar up, so the offending item was not in view!

Joseann Sat 23-Mar-24 16:57:28

Mollygo

Actually, the latest suggestion I’ve seen is to replace the 3 lions with 3pink flamingos. I dare say that would get support from **

Well in that case the French Cockerell should be replaced by a ??

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Mar-24 16:58:32

But as this aspect has been mentioned, I'd like to make it clear that my GS, and no doubt maddyone's and others', neither demands nor expects a new football kit. If we have the available money to make a child happy, then what is wrong?
Some young children are as passionate about football as others are about horse riding, playing instruments, canoeing or tennis etc. In the bigger picture, £100 on some football kit is actually quite a cheap outlay.

Yes, riding lessons? How much?? 😯
Then the kit to go with that
Music lessons - we've been through it all 🎻🎷🎸 Ear defenders.
Dancing (and the costumes)
Other sports too

In fact, football-mad DS's hobby cost far less than the DD's.

The children who are keen on the sport will most likely be playing it too, and that includes girls. Sport of all kinds should be encouraged imo.

I do think where it is wrong is that firms such as Nike are aware of this and sell the kits for exorbitant prices, knowing how keen so many children are on football and their football heroes and heroines.

It's not the first time Nike have scored an own goal, though.

Joseann Sat 23-Mar-24 17:13:47

The thing that irritates me is that they charge a disproportionate amount for the kids' strip compared with the adults'. How does no VAT on children's clothes work here, I wonder?

Franbern Sat 23-Mar-24 18:17:59

Cant remember much of fuss when the Conservative party altered the GB Union Jack for their 2019 Conference etc. Became totally blue.

maddyone Sat 23-Mar-24 18:24:05

Yes, the cost of children’s activities and the equipment is extortionate, but who would not encourage their children/grandchildren to participate in sport or other activities and interests if they can possibly afford to. My grandson is absolutely football mad (and cricket and any other competitive sport) and rarely wears anything other than football kits, or school uniform. I’ve just bought his twin sister a new leotard for use during her gymnastics classes. Her Mum bought it and I transferred the money. We bought her riding hat, and her first riding boots. We are paying for her little brother to have his tonsils out rather than waiting for two years. We help our children where we can and I’m pretty sure most parents on here will also do what they can to help. Next month we’re taking our grandson who lives here in England to see Lion King in London. It’s expensive, but it’s something he’ll enjoy. If other people make different decisions that’s entirely up to them.

Don’t worry Callistemon, we always insure our parcels when we post to NZ.

Callistemon21 Sat 23-Mar-24 19:14:06

Don’t worry Callistemon, we always insure our parcels when we post to NZ 👍

Tracking means you can follow it all the way, although it seems to get stuck at the hub near Heathrow for days!

25Avalon Sat 23-Mar-24 20:10:05

Watching them play on the telly now v Brazil, and quite frankly this cross is so small on the collar you can hardly see it.

M0nica Sun 24-Mar-24 19:27:45

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

Casdon Sun 24-Mar-24 19:37:35

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

zakouma66 Sun 24-Mar-24 19:38:44

Perhaps a 10 year old does understand woke. I think it means something along the lines of being aware of societal issues and facts.

A good thing surely?

Joseann Sun 24-Mar-24 19:46:08

Casdon

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

I agree Casdon and explained up thread.

Wearing the kit also gives children a sense of pride and confidence which is an important step in their emotional growth too. An overweight, fat child, wearing their favourite kit may thereby gain self-esteem and cope better with anxiety. It goes beyond just physical health.

Casdon Sun 24-Mar-24 19:49:48

Joseann

Casdon

M0nica

I cannot see what buying and wearing the sports strip has to do with encouraging sport. The streets are full of unfit overweight people wearing all kinds of sports kit. I doubt whether any of them actually partake of the sport in any form.

It does for children Monica. Wearing the kit of their heroes definitely inspires them to live out their dreams in the garden, and on the park, and to join junior teams - I know because my son and his mates were amongst them.

I agree Casdon and explained up thread.

Wearing the kit also gives children a sense of pride and confidence which is an important step in their emotional growth too. An overweight, fat child, wearing their favourite kit may thereby gain self-esteem and cope better with anxiety. It goes beyond just physical health.

I agree - I don’t think that unless you’ve known children who are passionate about football, and lots of them are, you really understand the benefits it brings them.

M0nica Sun 24-Mar-24 21:04:41

No, DGS did go through a short football phase, but his main interest was playing the game and he was quite good, he just supported the local, non-league football club. But it didn't last long.

Now some health problems and a mile and a half walk to school, and again home in the evening, plus school sport is sufficient for him.

Joseann Tue 26-Mar-24 12:44:25

I've just been shown the away Nike shirts for real. You can't see the cross because it is on the inside of the top, the away one having no collar. Apparently the queue to buy them on Saturday in the Wembley shop was huge. DGD's size was sold out, so she had to get the smallest women's size, (it will last longer!) DGS's shirt cost nothing like the price the papers were saying, so I think it was all a bit of a storm in tea cup. The colour is lovely, I'd say it's mauve.