Is anyone interested in the terror attack in Moscow?

Reports of lethal actions are becoming frequent and we probably hear about more than we did in past years because of increased media coverage so we are becoming more and more used to them. My chief thought is that innocent civilians are usually the victims of terrorists of all kinds.

I believe Putin and his despots planned the whole attack. It’s got his finger prints all over it.

USA warned Putin and US nationals prior to the attack. Putin chose to ignore the warning

You took the words out of my mouth Whitewave.

I apologise, I started the thread and I chose a word for the title that was inappropriate. I wasn’t quite sure what to put, but was surprised that there wasn't a thread about this atrocity. Some reasons for this have been explained by other Gransnetters. Sometimes I do wonder why some atrocities or disasters attract a lot of comment whilst others attract little. We do get weary I realise, of reading and hearing about the awful things that happen in the world, and we are powerless to do anything about them. Often the only response is that we can contribute towards a charity that is collecting for the relief of the victims, but in Russia this is impossible, and anyway, these victims don’t need money.
I feel sure that Islamic State is responsible, as it has claimed. It has all the marks of similar attacks by Islamic groups, and it may be protesting because Russia is supporting Israel in the Israeli conflict.

It's tragic, innocent people murdered when they were enjoying a concert.

The four suspects have been identified as citizens of Tajikistan by a Russian news agency, members of IS, logical because Russia supports Assad.

The French president said he had intelligence that Islamic State (IS) carried out Friday’s attack in Moscow, warning Russia against exploiting the attack by blaming it on Ukraine.

Mr Macron said it would be “cynical and counterproductive for Russia to use this context to try and turn it against Ukraine”.

It may be that Russia knew about this attack, I don’t know, but did our government know about the Manchester bombing or 7/7 attacks? I don’t believe they did, so it is possible that Russia didn’t know about this attack. However maybe Russia knew, I don’t know. I certainly don’t think that the government of the USA knew about the pending 9/11 attack. Sometimes conspiracy theorists go too far, in my opinion.

Urmstongran Macron is an attention seeker. He’d say anything that he thinks makes him look important.

maddyone It is in the public domain that Russia was warned about an attack on a facility like this
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68646375

I think those in power knew something was going to happen maddy just not where or when.

We flew to Florida 10 days before and were in America when it happened. We'd never seen so many armed police at Manchester airport before or since.

IS have had Russia on their hit list for a long time, the Beslan seige was in 2004 when over 300 died, sadly most were children. I doubt it has anything to do with Gaza, more likely Russia's involvement in Chechnya, Syria and Afghanistan.

Would anyone trust Putin, capable of anything, we won’t get the truth.I feel dreadfully sorry for the ordinary Russianas much as I do tge very brave people in Ukraine.

maddyone

Urmstongran Macron is an attention seeker. He’d say anything that he thinks makes him look important.

He's the President of France, he is important

Is anyone interested in the terror attack in Moscow

Very much so, if "interest" is the right word. I spent a lot of time reading about it this morning.

But I didn't start a thread about it - mostly because I never start threads anyway.

That doesn't mean I don't care about those that have been killed and injured... it's difficult to read and process the awfulness of it, actually.

Like others, I feel a sense of helplessness at what is happening around the world at the moment. It makes me realise just how little power as individuals that we have.

I agree Dickens, I used the wrong word and for that I apologise.
I did think it strange that there was no thread on it, especially with Putin blaming the Ukrainians, completely wrongly in my opinion.
So again, apologies for a poor choice of word.

It's fine maddy I for one am glad you started it.
I never start threads either

Galaxy

It's fine maddy I for one am glad you started it.
I never start threads either

I never start threads either

It's the commitment - if you start a thread, you have to follow-up - as maddy is doing. My day is structured such that I might not be able to return to it until 2 am.

When I read about the attack, I did wonder if someone would post about it... I imagined other GNs being shocked.

Unfortunately, I was shocked, but not surprised. I know it isn't but this seems to be the age-of-terrorism.

smileless The warning was more than specific enough, for thie event to have been, if not totally avoidable, that there should have been a far far faster response.

I quote from the BBC report I linked in a post above

The 7 March warning from the US to its own citizens was unusually specific. It talked of reports that "extremists" had "imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow" and specifically mentioned concerts.

This warning was passed on to the Russian government as well. The dates were slightly out, but the Russians would probably have been given the data this warning was based on and added their own intelligence.

Any competent government would have followed it up, Had extra security at all big events at appropriate venues and had the relevant civil security group on standby.

They chose not to because it enabled Putin to lnk this event, quite deliberately with the Ukraine war. I suspect that he had hpped to blame Ukrainian ectremists, but there was so much information out there showing it was islamic terrorists, that he had to present it that they were fleeing to Ukraine that was expecting them, which, of course was not true.

It isn't compulsory to follow up on a thread. Once you've started one it ceases to belong to you.

halfpint1

maddyone

Urmstongran Macron is an attention seeker. He’d say anything that he thinks makes him look important.

He's the President of France, he is important

I think it’s more than Macron being an attention seeker. When he says ‘this group’ I read it that he means the same specific cell of terrorists tried to carry out attacks in France.
news.sky.com/story/russia-moscow-shooting-latest-ukraine-islamic-state-live-sky-news-blog-12541713?postid=7436598#liveblog-body

kittylester

I even suspect that Putin might have been responsible as an excuse to escalate the war with Ukraine and, probably, beyond.

I found myself wondering this too to my horror.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it seemed to be an attempt to tap into the same kind of sympathy response as the Hamas attack on Israel.
The attack was horrifying and the effect it has had on Russian people is heart-rending.
I'm afraid I have little sympathy for the perpetrators and even less for the people who brain-washed them into committing this horror. I just hope that they are the guilty ones.

I'm afraid I have little sympathy for the perpetrators and even less for the people who brain-washed them into committing this horror. I just hope that they are the guilty ones

I hope they have the right perpetrators too. They pleaded guilty, even though one was unconscious from the injuries inflicted on him by his captors.

The people perpetrating this horror are no more likely to have been brain washed into doing it than the people who conceived the plan. They were committed extremists.

I think Putin has now said this was an Islamist attack and not from Ukraine.
I am horrified to think that Russia may have been complicit in this attack in some way.

maddyone

It may be that Russia knew about this attack, I don’t know, but did our government know about the Manchester bombing or 7/7 attacks? I don’t believe they did, so it is possible that Russia didn’t know about this attack. However maybe Russia knew, I don’t know. I certainly don’t think that the government of the USA knew about the pending 9/11 attack. Sometimes conspiracy theorists go too far, in my opinion.

I absolutely agree with you.
Warnings are all very well, but if not specific are difficult to act on.
Conspiracy theories are the disease of our time.