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Whitewavemark2 Thu 23-May-24 07:29:20

I am not sure if it will be possible over the next 42 days, but I thought it would be fun to try to see. How the polls perform after the various gaffs that the politicians will inevitably make.

Whilst the gap is huge at the moment, it will almost certainly close as the days go by.

I think I’ll use Politico (poll of polls)

growstuff Wed 26-Jun-24 18:38:36

Nicenanny3

Whitewavemark2

😄😄😄

Must be another thick Labour voter then if he thinks under Starmer/Labour he's going to get an increase in his pension, he'll be worse off 😂😂😂

What evidence do you have for that claim?

MayBee70 Wed 26-Jun-24 18:46:25

The words LibDem and ‘opposition’ just don’t go together in my brain! ( but I could get used to it grin).

varian Wed 26-Jun-24 18:50:39

It would certainly give our rotten electoral system a shake up if the Conservatives got twice as many votes as the Liberal Democrats but one less seat!

That might make them think twice about the need for Proportional Representation.

Iam64 Wed 26-Jun-24 18:57:24

Good point varian. Other European countries manage without fptp

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Jun-24 19:26:20

varian

It would certainly give our rotten electoral system a shake up if the Conservatives got twice as many votes as the Liberal Democrats but one less seat!

That might make them think twice about the need for Proportional Representation.

11 less seats according to that poll.

Casdon Wed 26-Jun-24 19:33:26

varian

It would certainly give our rotten electoral system a shake up if the Conservatives got twice as many votes as the Liberal Democrats but one less seat!

That might make them think twice about the need for Proportional Representation.

Actually, it wouldn’t matter what they thought, because they wouldn’t be the main opposition anyway if that happened?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Jun-24 19:36:07

casdon according to the Mirror MRP latest poll has the Lib Dems in opposition.

Casdon Wed 26-Jun-24 19:41:54

Yes, that’s what I meant Whitewavemark2, if the LiB Dems were the opposition, it wouldn’t matter what the Tories thought about PR, because they wouldn’t be in a position of power.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Jun-24 19:49:28

Oh yes.

Note to self “ stop doing two things at once” 😄

Visgir1 Wed 26-Jun-24 19:50:22

PR.. Is in Scotland, not sure the SNP and the Greens are getting it perfect.

Casdon Wed 26-Jun-24 20:10:53

We have partial PR in Wales too, and I’m unconvinced it works any better, because candidates don’t have the same local knowledge and they can war with each other over local issues to a greater extent when both (or more) cover the same patch. I’m really on the fence.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 27-Jun-24 05:50:27

I think the PR we have in Scotland is a lot better than FPTP. It’s the only way that people who vote Tory or Green would ever have been represented at Holyrood. If only the UK and Belarus (in Europe) use FPTP, you have to ask yourself if everyone else is wrong, don’t you?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 08:16:38

From The Conversation

This time next week we will know for sure!!

The United Kingdom general election will be held in a week, on July 4. Polls close at 7am AEST on July 5. The 650 members of the House of Commons are elected by first-past-the-post, in which the candidate with the most votes wins the seat.

In the UK, votes are not counted at individual polling places, but are instead transported to a central place for counting within that seat. This delays the results, so the vast majority of seats will be declared from late morning to mid-afternoon AEST on July 5.

The Guardian’s national poll tracker has Labour leading the Conservatives by just over 20 points. Vote shares are 41.3% Labour, 21.0% Conservatives, 15.5% for the far-right Reform, 11.1% Liberal Democrats and 5.8% Greens. Recent individual polls have Labour leading the Conservatives by 16 to 24 points.

In the last few weeks, there has been a surge for Reform and to a lesser extent the Lib Dems, at the expense of both Labour and the Conservatives. Labour’s lead over the Conservatives has been unchanged.

If these polls are replicated at the election, Labour will win a landslide, owing to the first-past-the-post system. The Guardian’s seat forecast is for Labour to win 424 of the 650 seats, the Conservatives 135, the Lib Dems 47 and the Scottish National Party (SNP) 19.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 12:52:10

In the absence of any movement in the polls thought I’d post this for a change.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 18:18:56

This might suit us all better😀

LizzieDrip Fri 28-Jun-24 19:10:20

Oh no, my tipple is white wine and it’s a tie between Labour & Tory😱 Do I need to change my drink of choice🙈🙈🙈

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 19:48:19

I’m OK Gin and tonic😀. Anyone going to admit to sherry?

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 28-Jun-24 20:45:11

Thanks WWM - does the fact that I'd drink most of these make me floating voter, or (hic) an alcoholic?

Zozumuhahoccult Fri 28-Jun-24 22:37:25

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Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 22:55:03

Red wine drinker here, I hope that doesn’t mean I’m only very slightly Labour with that 4% difference. We had some very nice indeed South African red tonight, oh dear.

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 23:23:28

Occasional drinker here. Gin & tonic is nectar. Sloe gin, too, but it doesn't get a mention ☹️

Pantglas2 Sat 29-Jun-24 06:18:01

We enjoy a good dry fino sherry with tapas when in mi Casa WWM2! Actually so do most Spaniards and they tend to be socialists!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 06:41:21

Spain doesn’t count😄😄

Whitewavemark2 Sun 30-Jun-24 07:18:58

The last week - all coming up by the straight. Electoral Calculus figures

Pred seats
CON 65
LAB 465
LIB 71
Reform. 6
Green 3
SNP 18
PlaidC 3
Other 1

Dated 27/06

I’ll do a daily one if I can until Thursday.

LizzieDrip Sun 30-Jun-24 18:00:16

WW you’re a star⭐️

This poll above looks amazing! Surely it’s too good to be true🙈

I can’t wait for Thursday when the polling stations open, then it’ll be down to democracy!