Starmer’s a decent bloke!

The Conservatives have without doubt searched far and wide - and deep - to find some dirt on Starmer. Their failure surely should give us some indication of what a decent bloke Starmer is.
His solid record of public service as DPP tells you he's capable of taking responsibility.

I watched Sunak faking it this morning at a pottery in Stoke on Trent. The faces of the conscripted audience said it all.
Sunak knows he cannot win this election. He is in an unusual position of being able to promise and pledge anything that comes into his head, knowing full well he will never have to deliver on any of it.

No ‘decent bloke’ would support the starvation and be complicit in the genocide of thousands of men, women and children by Israel.

Are the people on this site actually aware of what is happening in the world?

The best we can do is elect trustworthy good wise people - not for headline policies but for them to work hard to make the best of inheriting a country wrecked by the Tories plus Brexit (a Tory error) and Covid. Everything I have read or heard about Keir Starmer makes me think he will work as hard as he can and as wisely as he can. Met him once, friend worked with him for a while. Solid sort. No more grandstanding entitled egos like Johnson or maybe well intentioned (or sometimes not) but out of touch millionaires and billionaires. Or plain deluded like Liz Truss. I can only keep my fingers crossed

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

What Census was this?
I was born in the 60’s and as I grew up I didn’t know anyone at all who had a phone.Dad had one put in around 1975.

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/1961-02-01/debates/331800fd-a3db-497c-83f2-f68e9e87f25c/ThePostOfficeTelephoneService
Maybe you are right Rosie51, I couldn’t find it. Nerds like me will enjoy this regardless. Access to private telephones in the early 1960s was governed by whether you could be supplied with one by the Post Office as much as whether you could afford one, and telephones were being installed at the rate of 450,000 a year, so they were certainly no longer only the province of the wealthy. We had a home phone then, and my nana had a party line installed in 1961 when my sister was born, I think that was how many mitigated the costs. The Lords could be talking about now, the details have changed but not the frustrations.

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

Would I buy a secondhand hand car from Starmer? Yes I would.
Would I have bought one from Johnson? Not on your Nelly.
Would I buy one from Rishi? Not sure about that.
Will I vote Tory. No.

Starmer is a very decent person and I think he would do a good job of running the country. Th Tories have brought the UK to its knees and messed it up completely, imo.

We lived in police accommodation from 1968 - 1978 , no telephone, my husband was in CID, if he was wanted when off duty someone from the station would come to our house.

Oreo

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

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I don’t see what second hand cars have got to do with anything.

Fascinating..

This thread is beginning to sound like the Four Yorkshiremen
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k

When did Starmer say that they had a home phone in 1960? He wasn't even born until 1962

My dad was in CID we always lived in police accommodation. Police weren’t allowed to buy a house until the late 1970’s
We had a phone in the houses from 1960

Rosie51

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Are you sure about those figures? I only knew three families that had private telephones in 1960, two were friends the other was a relative and it was really a business line that they could make private paid for calls from. Mostly we used public phone boxes and were fortunate to have one a two minute walk away. By the end of the 60s I knew a lot more people with a private telephone. Was my childhood in 1960 really so deprived that we were wildly out of step with the norm?

Yes I'm sure access to a telephone would have meant a public phone box within walking distance. I can remember my dad waiting outside a public telephone box to receive a pre planed call.

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

No, his father was someone who worked for himself.
We've established that,

Then Starmer worked with his dad, which is quite normal.

vintageclassics

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Shame people repeat completely made up stories.

Mamardoit

Rosie51

Casdon

By 1960 only one in five households didn’t have access to a telephone Plunger, it certainly wasn’t a luxury. That comes from the Census.

These attempts to discredit Starmer are now entering into the world of fiction, Gransnet could launch its own conspiracy theory company at this rate. At the end of it, it boils down to the fact, unpalatable though it is for some, that he was a very gifted boy from an ordinary family, who made good.

Are you sure about those figures? I only knew three families that had private telephones in 1960, two were friends the other was a relative and it was really a business line that they could make private paid for calls from. Mostly we used public phone boxes and were fortunate to have one a two minute walk away. By the end of the 60s I knew a lot more people with a private telephone. Was my childhood in 1960 really so deprived that we were wildly out of step with the norm?

Yes I'm sure access to a telephone would have meant a public phone box within walking distance. I can remember my dad waiting outside a public telephone box to receive a pre planed call.

My ambition when I was about 12 or 13 was to one day earn enough to have a car, a telephone and a detached house 😁

Trekking down the road to the phone box in the rain with 4d in my pocket got a bit wearisome.

At least we made plans to meet up with our friends in advance instead of constantly peering at mobiles, watching what everyone is doing.

I really think the days of children/teens being glued to their phones are done with.

The novelty has worn off that one, some time ago.

At least in my home.

MaizieD

vintageclassics

Shame he fabricates his working class roots - he says his father was a toolmaker - his father actually owned a toolmaking factory. What else isn't quite true?

Shame people repeat completely made up stories.

Starmer's father trained up as a toolmaker as an apprentice then went on to work for himself, just as an expert electrician or other skilled craftsman/woman might as sole trader.

This has been established so many time on other threads!

GrannyGravy13

I was born late 50’s I cannot remember a time we didn’t have a telephone nor my grandparents.

we always had a telephone with a very nosy partyline neighbour..

My friends partner owns a maintenence company.
He is the only one working in it, though.

maddyone

Oreo

I wish all electioneering didn’t include sob stories about who has the most poor backgrounds.Y’know what? It doesn’t matter one bit, we just need a good decent strong PM who’s keen to do the job and the best for us all in the UK.It’s down to policies and not the person as I believe Sunak to have all those attributes as well as Starmer.

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Indeed. 👍

And next week Sunak & Starmer have agreed to their first tv debate.

Pull up a chair and pass the popcorn.