Rayner cleared.

MissA, I googled and the only response was from Guido Fawkes site. It claims the site running since 2022 but taken down yesterday after GF publicised it

I’m far from liberal in my views on pornography or so called sex work.
We do our best by our children. Anyone who has worked with Children and Families, or adult services will confirm even in the ‘best’ of families adult children often fail to live up to expectations or get into various difficulties. We have no idea of AR’s feelings about these allegations
The snobby superior judgemental comments on this issue say much more about the posters than Angela Rayner

We had a Tory mp watching porn in the HoC, another phoning his female 78 year old office support person at 3am asking for several thousand pounds because his credit cards were maxed out and he was locked in a room by bad men (cocaine and alcohol related). Boris and Carrie rowing so police called by neighbours etc etc
It isn’t a left right thing

Yes that's all I could find, too.
You'd think he would have included a bit of these lurid films on his YouTube channel.

That would have proved it to his 7000 subscribers

GSM is perfectly right- great pity she is criticised on this thread - great pity more people don’t listen to her. She has the facts - put succinctly- she is criticised for being a Tory - what she says is not political- it is simply the law.
I shall also vote conservative - I always have and always will. Yes- in all parties there are ‘the good the bad and the ugly’ so to speak but I cannot vote for those full of spite, envy and greed.

It's never a pity that people think for themselves.

Thank you montypops.

I cannot vote for those full of spite, envy and greed

Oh no! That narrows it down to Monster Raving Loonies then?

ronib

Doodledog how do you know how seriously I was considering my vote? Quite ridiculous

Just from what you said

Are you still not going to flesh out your other comments, or do you think it's ok to throw out vague accusations with no evidence and no definitions of what you are talking about?

Which facts are these, montypops?

I respect GSM's knowledge of the law, but the 'facts' in this case seem rather elusive.

The fact is that there are no facts to back up the idea that Angela Rayners son is a porn star.

Doodledog I don’t understand quite what you are expecting me to say. All I know is that I don’t have any friends or associates with links to the sex trade. I don’t expect senior politicians of any hue to be making money out of pornography nor do I expect members of their families to do the same. Forgive my innocence ……. This is how I feel.

ronib

Doodledog I don’t understand quite what you are expecting me to say. All I know is that I don’t have any friends or associates with links to the sex trade. I don’t expect senior politicians of any hue to be making money out of pornography nor do I expect members of their families to do the same. Forgive my innocence ……. This is how I feel.

I don’t think those on Only Fans necessarily advertise the fact to all friends and relatives.

Why would Rayner be making money off of her son? My son works (non sex trade lol) and I don’t ask for money from him..

What our families do is up to them.🙄

What a contrast! Tory politicians being ‘done’ for hundreds of thousands if not more. Labour politician being pursued- possibly- for a few thousand! Says it all, really!

The crime is the same whatever the sum of money involved.

Oh for goodness sake!
I’m surprised that anyone on this site seriously blames parents for what their adult children do, or judges their political competence on that basis. We can do better than that. History is jam packed with instances of kids gone bad from the best of upbringings
Look at Queen Victoria’s Bertie
(Not to mention Prince Andrew)

Just for historical accuracy's sake, undines, poor Bertie had a truly horrible upbringing.

Undines not a question of making money out of your son’s choice of a living. To my way of thinking Angela Rayner has made known her very difficult early family circumstances. All credit to her for that but what exactly are the consequences of such a haphazard early childhood? Is Angela Rayner best equipped to handle a position of responsibility and power? So for me, Oliver Dowden is looking positively normal if a tad boring as deputy prime minister and boring wins.

Poor woman, dragged through all this.

She should receive compensation for what happened to her, not least for her legal fees!

MaizieD

Just for historical accuracy's sake, undines, poor Bertie had a truly horrible upbringing.

Prince Andrew didn’t , he was the Queen’s favourite, apparantly.

Do we blame her for his behaviour?🤔

Prince Andrew isn’t standing for political office.

ronib

Prince Andrew isn’t standing for political office.

He’s still living off of public funds.

DiamondLily

ronib

Prince Andrew isn’t standing for political office.

He’s still living off of public funds.

And Rayners son and DIL aren’t standing for office.🤷‍♀️

Andrew isn't even earning a living.

ronib

Doodledog I don’t understand quite what you are expecting me to say. All I know is that I don’t have any friends or associates with links to the sex trade. I don’t expect senior politicians of any hue to be making money out of pornography nor do I expect members of their families to do the same. Forgive my innocence ……. This is how I feel.

There is no proof of that.

MissAdventure

Andrew isn't even earning a living.

He’s living, partly, off of taxpayers money, and expected to behave in a fitting way.

The Queen gave him £12 million to keep all this quiet. I’ve not noticed Rayner trying to do the same.

ronib

Doodledog I don’t understand quite what you are expecting me to say. All I know is that I don’t have any friends or associates with links to the sex trade. I don’t expect senior politicians of any hue to be making money out of pornography nor do I expect members of their families to do the same. Forgive my innocence ……. This is how I feel.

I'm just expecting you to back up what you say, rather than make vague and unsubstantiated accusations about LP values being linked to porn, AR making money from it, 'family political views' and so on. Is that asking a lot?