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Diane Abbott to be banned from standing for Labour.

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Urmstongran Tue 28-May-24 18:22:41

Breaking news, just now.

MaizieD Tue 28-May-24 23:17:12

Anti semetism is inexcusable from anyone, let alone an MP. A good result.

She wasn't being anti-semitic, though, any more than she was being anti-traveller, or anti-Irish. Surely being 'anti' something usually involves a dislike or hatred of whatever one is 'anti'? But she wasn't expressing such a negative emotional view.

She did, however, say that the other recipients of racism/prejudice experienced a lesser degree than did black
people. To me that was very thoughtless and hurtful, but not 'anti'.

I think any form of racism or prejudice is inexcusable...

Wyllow3 Tue 28-May-24 23:20:32

This is the latest Sky news report

news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-has-labour-whip-restored-after-investigation-13144675#:~:text=Britain's%20first%20black%20woman%20MP,Labour%20at%20the%20upcoming%20election.

"Sky News now understands that she had the whip returned to her earlier today, paving the way for the veteran MP to run for Labour again in her Hackney North constituency, should she wish to stand in July's election."

Whether she decides to run or whether she is selected depends on decisions yet to be made.

DiamondLily Wed 29-May-24 04:48:39

According to the Times, she won’t be allowed to stand for Labour:

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/diane-abbott-mp-labour-general-election-2024-fvgnbprdm

Curtaintwitcher Wed 29-May-24 07:02:48

There still seems to be confusion about this. If she is popular with her constituents, then she should be allowed to stand. Labour need every seat they can get.
She really needs to lose her obsession with race!

Anniebach Wed 29-May-24 07:28:49

Perhaps she wants to retire

DiamondLily Wed 29-May-24 07:40:52

She has just confirmed, on radio, that she has been banned from representing Labour:

“Diane Abbott says Labour has barred her from standing for party at election

Diane Abbott has confirmed to the BBC that she's been barred by Labour from standing for the party at the general election.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69071603

zakouma66 Wed 29-May-24 07:41:57

Curtaintwitcher

There still seems to be confusion about this. If she is popular with her constituents, then she should be allowed to stand. Labour need every seat they can get.
She really needs to lose her obsession with race!

But its alright to be obsessed with anti semitism?

maddyone Wed 29-May-24 08:05:15

She’s always seemed obsessed with race to me.

ronib Wed 29-May-24 08:29:16

It will be interesting to see who Labour has chosen in the short time available to replace Diane Abbott in her very safe Labour seat? Wes Streeting?

zakouma66 Wed 29-May-24 08:30:42

maddyone

She’s always seemed obsessed with race to me.

People can be obsessed with difference.

DiamondLily Wed 29-May-24 08:32:02

She got a majority of 33,000 at the last election. So, she’s obviously popular, locally.

Nothing to stop her standing as an independent.

NotSpaghetti Wed 29-May-24 08:46:55

I'm sure they will lose votes without her.
I expect someone has done the maths!

Bonnybanko Wed 29-May-24 08:51:50

Urnmstogran I blooming hope so I’m wouldn’t think she’s got a hope in hell after what she allegedly did

Freya5 Wed 29-May-24 09:32:20

Curtaintwitcher

There still seems to be confusion about this. If she is popular with her constituents, then she should be allowed to stand. Labour need every seat they can get.
She really needs to lose her obsession with race!

So being popular excuses her anti semetism and anti white rhetorik just because Labour need her voters.
Rayner forgetting her feminism and pandering to muslim men,just to get votes.
Absolutely, appalling.
A dam good reason not to vote Labour.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-May-24 09:51:10

There is confusion: Abbot has just given out different information than party HQ - suggest we wait for confirmation there.

The selection process for the seat is due "in a few days". The Guardian names 3 possible (other) candidates

"Although her fate is officially yet to be decided, three Labour activists with links to Abbott’s constituency – Anntoinette Bramble, the deputy mayor of Hackney council; Sem Moema, the London assembly member for North East; and Mete Coban, a Labour councillor for Stoke Newington – have been widely talked about as possible replacements".

www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/28/three-labour-names-in-frame-diane-abbott-election

Wyllow3 Wed 29-May-24 09:53:14

Freya5

Curtaintwitcher

There still seems to be confusion about this. If she is popular with her constituents, then she should be allowed to stand. Labour need every seat they can get.
She really needs to lose her obsession with race!

So being popular excuses her anti semetism and anti white rhetorik just because Labour need her voters.
Rayner forgetting her feminism and pandering to muslim men,just to get votes.
Absolutely, appalling.
A dam good reason not to vote Labour.

"Rayner forgetting her feminism and pandering to muslim men,just to get votes.
Absolutely, appalling"

Wondering what you meant by this?

Lovetopaint037 Wed 29-May-24 10:19:36

Is she well enough to stand? Certainly got the impression that she was not a well lady.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-May-24 10:31:28

She was ill during the last parliament but no reports of illness now.

He post on
X at 9.54am

Seems to suggest she has not been banned.

x.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1795740459085750561?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Anniebach Wed 29-May-24 10:36:26

No confusion, she has not been told she cannot stand in July
election, seems she assumed

Iam64 Wed 29-May-24 10:40:49

MaizieD

zakouma66

She said " It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism"

But she did explicitly include Jewish people in her list of those who had experienced a 'lesser' (my word, not hers) racism than black people. She must have forgotten about yellow stars and mass extermination. Without the word Jewish her letter may have been a bit more acceptable.

Yes she did MaizieD - I quoted earlier from her Observer letter she disputed claims that Irish, Jewish and traveller people suffer racism. She stated they experience prejudice it is true many types of white people with points of difference, such as red heads can experience this prejudice but they are not all their lives subject to racism

MrsSquirrel Wed 29-May-24 11:01:16

ronib

It will be interesting to see who Labour has chosen in the short time available to replace Diane Abbott in her very safe Labour seat? Wes Streeting?

Reports I have read said possible other candidates are local councillors Sem Moema or Mete Conan. No idea if that's just a rumour, but both are plausible.

MrsSquirrel Wed 29-May-24 11:03:35

Ooh I just saw Wyllow has posted similar to me, plus Antoinette Bramble. I guess it's not just a rumour.

Anniebach Wed 29-May-24 11:25:38

The decision to restore party whip was cleared yesterday, possible candidates would have been considered , there has
not been official notification that she cannot stand

Wyllow3 Wed 29-May-24 11:30:35

Yes Mrs Squirrel

(repeat)
"Although her fate is officially yet to be decided, three Labour activists with links to Abbott’s constituency – Anntoinette Bramble, the deputy mayor of Hackney council; Sem Moema, the London assembly member for North East; and Mete Coban, a Labour councillor for Stoke Newington – have been widely talked about as possible replacements".

All look very suitable as replacements. I looked them up.

MrsSquirrel Wed 29-May-24 11:37:22

Yes I agree they all seem suitable. I live nearby, though not in that constituency. I met Anntoinette Bramble at a local event and was very impressed with her.