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Diane Abbott to be banned from standing for Labour.

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Urmstongran Tue 28-May-24 18:22:41

Breaking news, just now.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-May-24 10:16:33

We were told that the Tories intended to fight dirty, and so it is proving to be.

Who next I wonder?

maddyone Thu 30-May-24 10:16:45

I’m off to the cinema to watch IF with my grandson this afternoon. It’ll probably bore me to death, most of the films he chooses do, but I can guarantee I won’t hear a single word about Diane Abbott while I’m there grin

ronib Thu 30-May-24 10:24:07

maddyoneWarning alert - my 3 year old grandson asked to leave after 40 minutes of Garfield the movie. How we ended up in a toyshop is a bit of a mystery…..

maddyone Thu 30-May-24 10:37:55

Thanks ronib but the grandson I’m going with is eleven so I don’t think there will be a problem. Maybe if I was taking my ten year old grandson who who gets very anxious, but he’s in New Zealand sadly. I miss them so so so much even though we spent several weeks every year with them.
However I did have that experience once, I had to leave the cinema with my three year old granddaughter. We were watching Peter Rabbit! We ended up in the Lindt chocolate shop!

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 10:50:44

maddyone

With regard to Diane Abbott, which this thread is about, I’m already bored by the ongoing dominance in the news about this. This is one MP! Every time I watch a news bulletin there it is, dominating the news as if there’s nothing else going on. Whether she is able to stand for parliament for Labour doesn’t affect most of us who are more concerned with who we might vote for in our own constituencies.

And me. She says one thing, publicly, then it seems to change.🤷‍♀️

But, even if Labour do decide to let her stand, she would never, and will never, be in any cabinet Starmer is in charge of.

The best she can hope for, whoever she stands as, is a backbencher.

As she seems somewhat confused herself, now might be a good time to leave gracefully.

But, as you say, more important things going on than whether Diane Abbott stands, and who for, if she does.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 30-May-24 10:51:35

maddyone I took my GS’s to The Garfield Movie yesterday, aged 4 and 9 they loved it.

(I admit to dozing off at one point 🤷‍♀️)

ronib Thu 30-May-24 11:06:00

GG13 my grandson objected to Garfield being abandoned by his father as a very young kitten. This is not right he said.

maddyone Thu 30-May-24 11:14:42

Oh bless him ronib.
I also admit to dozing off during the children’s films on occasion GG.
It’s the fault of the cinema, they installed reclining seats!
At least the film will be marginally more interesting than whether Diane Abbott will or won’t stand for Parliament.

Romola Thu 30-May-24 14:36:13

Why does the BBC keep wheeling out far-left Corbynites giving dire warnings to Keir Starmer about "paying a price" in the Diane Abbott sags?

Anniebach Thu 30-May-24 14:55:19

Abbott has always played the racist card, seems now Starmer wants her out because she a left and black women,

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 15:53:49

I don’t think anyone wants Abbott out because she’s black.

Starmer wants rid of what is seen as Corbynistas. Or those that support anti Semite tweets.

That’s why he ousted the very white Jeremy Corbyn.🙄

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-May-24 16:01:03

Rayner said this afternoon, that she saw no reason why Abbott can’t stand for re-election.

However tbh I don’t think that she (Abbott) looks terribly well and perhaps the best thing would be to call it a day.

Anniebach Thu 30-May-24 16:06:40

Unions have condemned Starmer for wanting rid of a far left
black woman. At the protest meeting yesterday Abbott spoke of being the first black woman MP, no mention of antisemitism

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 16:10:40

Whitewavemark2

Rayner said this afternoon, that she saw no reason why Abbott can’t stand for re-election.

However tbh I don’t think that she (Abbott) looks terribly well and perhaps the best thing would be to call it a day.

I agree. Abbott seems confused a lot of the time. She’s 70, so it could be a health issue. Retirement would seem to be a good option.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-May-24 16:23:03

What Starmer is doing is to take Labour to the centre ground, that is clear from the way candidates are/have been chosen.

However, Labour has been a broad church and the left wing has always been a relatively vocal wing. I think that the different factions have in the past been quite well managed and I think Starmer would be better to deal with the issue with a more laid back approach.

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 16:28:07

I’m beginning to wonder if Diane Abbott is being used by the activists on the far left to make trouble, which would be very unkind if she was in the process of negotiating a deal to retire which hadn’t concluded. She doesn’t seem herself, she’s uncomfortable when you watch her being interviewed, and I don’t get the impression that it’s anger.

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 16:34:34

Casdon

I’m beginning to wonder if Diane Abbott is being used by the activists on the far left to make trouble, which would be very unkind if she was in the process of negotiating a deal to retire which hadn’t concluded. She doesn’t seem herself, she’s uncomfortable when you watch her being interviewed, and I don’t get the impression that it’s anger.

Yes, I agree. She speaks about something, then changes her mind.

I think she’s being manipulated by those with an agenda.☹️

LizzieDrip Thu 30-May-24 16:36:45

I’m beginning to wonder if Diane Abbott is being used by the activists on the far left to make trouble, which would be very unkind if she was in the process of negotiating a deal to retire which hadn’t concluded

Casdon I’m beginning to think the same thing myself. It’s all looking a bit sad.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 30-May-24 16:38:48

I am sure she is. There are some very cross people in the left of the party, and Starmer is their bete noir.

Someone with Abbott’s best interests needs to care for her.

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 16:42:24

Whitewavemark2

I am sure she is. There are some very cross people in the left of the party, and Starmer is their bete noir.

Someone with Abbott’s best interests needs to care for her.

That would be kindest.

MayBee70 Thu 30-May-24 17:12:47

Whitewavemark2

I am sure she is. There are some very cross people in the left of the party, and Starmer is their bete noir.

Someone with Abbott’s best interests needs to care for her.

I’m sure that Mick Lynch, who advised his party members to vote for Brexit, loathes Starmer.

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 18:03:22

A Tory MP has defected to Labour today:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o

GrannyGravy13 Thu 30-May-24 18:07:12

DiamondLily

A Tory MP has defected to Labour today:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o

He has joined the Labour Party, he is not intending to stand for Parliament again, just been interviewed on BBC news.

DiamondLily Thu 30-May-24 18:08:23

GrannyGravy13

DiamondLily

A Tory MP has defected to Labour today:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o

He has joined the Labour Party, he is not intending to stand for Parliament again, just been interviewed on BBC news.

No. He just thinks Labour are the best bet. But, if he gets offered a seat, by Labour, it will be his decision.

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 18:16:09

The way I read it, he’s standing down as a Tory MP as a result of his defection to Labour, he was the Tory candidate for the election, is that correct?