Donald Trump a convicted felon

Whitewavemark2

It is so good to hear from a US citizen, who are living the Trump nightmare.

I am too old to see it, but I would love to see what history will make of this period of USA history and the reasons for this apparent insanity.

You mean it’s good to hear comments from Americans who agree with you! There millions over there who don’t agree with you.

Whilst not being a fan of Trump the glaring weaponisation of his misdemeanour into an offence potentially carrying a custodial sentence is truly disgraceful.

They’re out to get him because they’re terrified he’ll become president again.

His home was raided because he supposedly had classified documents there yet Biden had classified documents in his garage and that was glossed over.

Biden’s behaviour with very young girls is suspect to say the least and his own daughter has admitted to “taking showers with Dad (inappropriate)”. She feels she may have been sexually abused but doesn’t know who by. Imagine if this was Trump.

Love or hate the man, please show some objectivity.

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

It is so good to hear from a US citizen, who are living the Trump nightmare.

I am too old to see it, but I would love to see what history will make of this period of USA history and the reasons for this apparent insanity.

You mean it’s good to hear comments from Americans who agree with you! There millions over there who don’t agree with you.

So what do you find admirable about Trump?

Are you happy that he is destroying the keystone of an orderly society, that is, he is destroying the Rule of Law?

We have an independent judiciary

And thanks goodness we do GSM. When the judiciary is politicised it’s a road to disaster IMO. I do find it troubling that our Police Commissioner roles are political appointments - not happy with that!

Regarding Trump, the very fact that the judge is a political appointment opens the door for Trump to dismiss the whole thing as politically motivated, and plays into his populist, anti-establishment rhetoric … ‘If they can do this to me, they can do it to anyone’.

I fear that Trump will win the election and the world become even more dangerous than it already is.

I totally agree with Urmstongran. It is shocking what is happening.

What is shocking is that Trump has not been charged with his attempt to falsify the votes in Georgia in 2021 after two recounts. Note: this call was actually reported by a Republican

Jan. 2, 2021
In an hourlong phone call obtained by ABC News, Trump calls Raffensperger and falsely claims that it was "not possible" for him to have lost and asks the secretary to "find 11,780 votes" -- the exact number Trump needed to win Georgia.

"The people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated,"

Trump says on the call.

All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. ... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break

How can any poster think this OK? Imagine a PM in the UK doing this and what the comments would be!

This stuff about Biden and his daughter is utter rubbish, it comes from an allegation that a diary stolen from his daughter Ashley contained this information. It doesn't but a meme has been circulated amongst Trump followers suggesting that it's true. It was thought to have been done to counter a comment made by Trump that he'd like to sleep with his daughter, which is well documented.

Schedule F is terrifying and a huge threat to democracy should Trump ever get into power to implement it. However, Trump supporters, like many in the UK have no idea what they are voting for.

I had to look up ScheduleF - its an attempt to be able to replace what we call civill servants with political appointees.

"Three months before the end of his presidency, Donald Trump quietly issued Executive Order 13957, allowing the conversion of some federal civil service jobs to excepted service under a new classification, Schedule F.
If a position was reclassified, the president could fire its occupant at will and install a successor without going through the civil service hiring and placement process. Trump issued the order after years of complaining that a practically conspiratorial federal bureaucracy was obstructing his agenda.

His successor, President Joe Biden, rescinded the order two days after taking the oath of office in early 2021

"Many former Trump staffers and prominent supporters have echoed the theme.

Russ Vought, who led Trump’s Office of Management and Budget at the end of his presidency, has written that the federal bureaucracy currently carries out “the policy plans and preferences of a radical, supposedly ‘woke’ faction of the country,” and that the next president must show “boldness to bend or break the bureaucracy to the presidential will.”

In a recent TV interview, Sen. J.D. Vance (R–OH), rumored to be posturing for Trump’s vice president pick, was blunter: “If I was giving [him] one piece of advice, [it would be to] fire every single mid‐​level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, [and] replace them with our people

foxie48

This stuff about Biden and his daughter is utter rubbish, it comes from an allegation that a diary stolen from his daughter Ashley contained this information. It doesn't but a meme has been circulated amongst Trump followers suggesting that it's true. It was thought to have been done to counter a comment made by Trump that he'd like to sleep with his daughter, which is well documented.

‘ If she wasn’t my daughter I’d be dating her’. That and many other Trump comments make my flesh crawl. How any woman can vote for him is beyond me

Foxie48

You like to believe it’s rubbish as you are so biased. It’s been fact checked and verified.

tickingbird

Whilst not being a fan of Trump the glaring weaponisation of his misdemeanour into an offence potentially carrying a custodial sentence is truly disgraceful.

They’re out to get him because they’re terrified he’ll become president again.

His home was raided because he supposedly had classified documents there yet Biden had classified documents in his garage and that was glossed over.

Biden’s behaviour with very young girls is suspect to say the least and his own daughter has admitted to “taking showers with Dad (inappropriate)”. She feels she may have been sexually abused but doesn’t know who by. Imagine if this was Trump.

Love or hate the man, please show some objectivity.

What in gracious name are you talking about? Trump’s offences are NOT misdeamonors. He was caught trying to subvert the election by various means. The difference between Biden having classified documents and Trump was that Biden handed over the documents immediately and Trump tried to hide the documents and lied about having them. Your last accusation doesn’t bear commenting on as it’s straight from tabloid journalism.

forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/

According to a soon-to-be-published book, Blowback: A Warning to Save Democracy From the Next Trump, the former president “regularly made lewd comments about his daughter Ivanka and fantasized about what it would be like to have sex with her.”

According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”

Wyllow3

I had to look up ScheduleF - its an attempt to be able to replace what we call civill servants with political appointees.

"Three months before the end of his presidency, Donald Trump quietly issued Executive Order 13957, allowing the conversion of some federal civil service jobs to excepted service under a new classification, Schedule F.
If a position was reclassified, the president could fire its occupant at will and install a successor without going through the civil service hiring and placement process. Trump issued the order after years of complaining that a practically conspiratorial federal bureaucracy was obstructing his agenda.

His successor, President Joe Biden, rescinded the order two days after taking the oath of office in early 2021

"Many former Trump staffers and prominent supporters have echoed the theme.

Russ Vought, who led Trump’s Office of Management and Budget at the end of his presidency, has written that the federal bureaucracy currently carries out “the policy plans and preferences of a radical, supposedly ‘woke’ faction of the country,” and that the next president must show “boldness to bend or break the bureaucracy to the presidential will.”

In a recent TV interview, Sen. J.D. Vance (R–OH), rumored to be posturing for Trump’s vice president pick, was blunter: “If I was giving [him] one piece of advice, [it would be to] fire every single mid‐​level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, [and] replace them with *our people*

Yes that is right. So bear in mind who is a civil servant in the USA - they include the security services amongst others.

It really is very worrying for people in the USA

Tickingbird perhaps you'd like to provide evidence that the diary belongs to Ashley Biden and the allegations made are correct. Aimee Harris sold the diary to Project Veritas a right wing media group for $40,000, she had previously tried to sell it at a Trump fundraiser.
"Project Veritas has said Harris and Kurlander claimed they obtained the diary lawfully.
The group said it did not publish a story because it could not confirm the diary was authentic, and instead arranged for it to be sent to Florida law enforcement."
Reuters.

On Ashley’s Wikipedia page is states that two people have been found guilty of stealing her diary, one is in jail and one awaits sentencing…

There were other things stolen that did belong to her, one was found guilty of transporting stolen goods and the other (Harris) was found guilty of theft. No evidence that the diary belonged to AB or that the entries in the diary were made by her.

tickingbird

Whilst not being a fan of Trump the glaring weaponisation of his misdemeanour into an offence potentially carrying a custodial sentence is truly disgraceful.

They’re out to get him because they’re terrified he’ll become president again.

His home was raided because he supposedly had classified documents there yet Biden had classified documents in his garage and that was glossed over.

Biden’s behaviour with very young girls is suspect to say the least and his own daughter has admitted to “taking showers with Dad (inappropriate)”. She feels she may have been sexually abused but doesn’t know who by. Imagine if this was Trump.

Love or hate the man, please show some objectivity.

It was an offence. The lawyer who originally paid off Stormy Daniels, from his own money, was eventually repaid out of campaign funds. Campaign funds come from donations by supporters. They are not allowed to be used for personal expenses unless associated with the campaign.

The following is taken from the Federal Election Committee

"Commission regulations provide a test, called the "irrespective test," to differentiate legitimate campaign and officeholder expenses from personal expenses. Under the "irrespective test," personal use is any use of funds in a campaign account of a candidate (or former candidate) to fulfill a commitment, obligation or expense of any person that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s campaign or responsibilities as a federal officeholder. "

I don't think that the payments for Stormy Daniels fall within this category.

It would be helpful if sometimes people got their facts correct.

More simply, if the expense would exist even in the absence of the candidacy or even if the officeholder were not in office, then the personal use ban applies.

Conversely, any expense that results from campaign or officeholder activity falls outside the personal use ban.

Wyllow3

I had to look up ScheduleF - its an attempt to be able to replace what we call civill servants with political appointees.

I had to research it, too. It's alarming.

On a more basic note - I cannot understand any woman supporting a politician let alone a probable POTUS who has shown such contempt for their sex.

I saw a photo of a middle-aged woman wearing a T shirt at a Trump rally with the legend, "Mr Trump you can grab my pussy any time". Obviously, one has to be suspicious of such stuff online as photo's can be superimposed, faked, etc, so I did some research. You can actually buy similar T shirts online - though the one this particular woman was wearing looked home-made.

Such fun!

... obviously, I've still got a lot to learn about human nature...

MayBee70

foxie48

This stuff about Biden and his daughter is utter rubbish, it comes from an allegation that a diary stolen from his daughter Ashley contained this information. It doesn't but a meme has been circulated amongst Trump followers suggesting that it's true. It was thought to have been done to counter a comment made by Trump that he'd like to sleep with his daughter, which is well documented.

‘ If she wasn’t my daughter I’d be dating her’. That and many other Trump comments make my flesh crawl. How any woman can vote for him is beyond me

foxie48 don’t add to all the false stuff doing the rounds.For all his many many faults DT did not say he would like to sleep with his daughter!
He said exactly what Maybee70 said ‘if she wasn’t my daughter I’d be dating her’.

Wyllow3

forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/

According to a soon-to-be-published book, Blowback: A Warning to Save Democracy From the Next Trump, the former president “regularly made lewd comments about his daughter Ivanka and fantasized about what it would be like to have sex with her.”

According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”

Just as we can’t take at face value anything about Biden and his daughter, we can’t simply believe something similar about DT written by men with an agenda, just because we dislike him intensely.

He does have a pretty grim record of offensive comments against women!

Trump supporters tend to be middle-aged or older. Forgive me for being so crass, but in California we don't see a lot of conventionally attractive young female Trump supporters--not a lot of his supporters whose genitals he would be interested in grabbing, in short.

The fact that Biden supporters are not in-your-face with bumper stickers and lawn signs may lead people to imagine that he has little support. He does, if only because many people don't approve of Trump's behavior, language, and threats, and the nonsense he spouts about Biden not being able to walk. or put a sentence together. Those claims are belied by Biden's recent State of the Union address.

Most of the time when I vote for a President I am essentially voting AGAINST the other guy--I'd vote for Noddy Holder if he was eligible and if he was the only other candidate running for President.

I have not read up on Schedule F, but I will. The election happens on my birthday this year. Will it be a happy Guy Fawkes day for me? I certainly do wonder if there will be violence if Trump isn't elected. I'm thinking "What a good time of the year to visit relatives in New Zealand!"

JudyBloom

I totally agree with Urmstongran. It is shocking what is happening.

Excellent! I thought I was a lone voice …. 😁

Blimey, we have at least two Kool-Aid drinkers.