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Nigel Farage

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nanna8 Fri 31-May-24 01:16:38

Last night,having nothing better to do, I watched Nige on Utube. He is quite savvy, creepy though he may be. He said the British election was already lost, Starmer will be returned as PM and the Labour Party will be on the nose after 5 years in power which is when the Reform a party will step in with an overwhelming majority. I actually think he might be right. He also thinks Trump will get in even with a guilty verdict and he wouldn’t say if he had been offered a post if and when he did. So Donald, his best mate, probably has something to offer there. Interesting.

Allsorts Fri 31-May-24 18:33:27

Why get worked up about Farage. You don’t have to vote or support him. I don’t think he’s racist says it how he sees it.

petra Fri 31-May-24 18:49:56

Curtaintwitcher

His relationships haven't lasted long. I find that concerning. Does he get bored with people or does he find their personal habits difficult to deal with?

Perhaps he’s just like millions of other people ( wives as well) who come to the conclusion that the relationship isn’t working.

Galaxy Fri 31-May-24 19:57:29

But people didnt make those predictions did they. They were astounded at the Brexit vote and the Trump vote.
I nowhere said he was right about everything. That wouldnt be my style about anyone.

growstuff Fri 31-May-24 20:48:26

Galaxy

But people didnt make those predictions did they. They were astounded at the Brexit vote and the Trump vote.
I nowhere said he was right about everything. That wouldnt be my style about anyone.

Actually I wasn't at all astounded at the Brexit vote or Trump win. I remember being very concerned that people seemed so complacent.

growstuff Fri 31-May-24 20:50:12

Allsorts

Why get worked up about Farage. You don’t have to vote or support him. I don’t think he’s racist says it how he sees it.

I disagree with you. It is my absolute opinion that he is racist and that anybody who thinks he just "says it how is" is probably racist too.

Galaxy Fri 31-May-24 20:51:01

Maybe not you but it is a general theme. I do worry that political parties and mainstream media are out of touch with a large section of the population. That generally doesnt end well.

growstuff Fri 31-May-24 20:52:16

Wyllow3

Good comment.

I think he prefers to pontificate instead of doing the hard work involved in being a constituency MP and having to help people as well as the bigger politics. Also - not accountable.

There's a cartoon somewhere likening him to a fly which bites a horse and makes it kick. The fly, of course, doesn't appear to do much damage - it's the innocent horse which kicks somebody in the face.

growstuff Fri 31-May-24 20:53:05

Galaxy

Maybe not you but it is a general theme. I do worry that political parties and mainstream media are out of touch with a large section of the population. That generally doesnt end well.

I can agree with that.

Chestnut Sat 01-Jun-24 00:03:47

Casdon Why are we not seeing more of the actual candidates though, or Richard Tice? Farage is now on TV so often that it’s predictable what he’s going to say, and voters needs to hear a wider viewpoint of what Reform’s plans are.

That's a good question. Why aren't we seeing more of Reform on TV? I notice the BBC News gave a summary of what each party had done that day, all parties including Plaid Cymru, DUP, SNP, Greens......but not a word on what Reform had done. The BBC is supposed to be impartial so why are they leaving them out?

Dickens Sat 01-Jun-24 00:42:17

Farage is something of a pundit, so he's a useful 'fill-in' on programmes covering current affairs / politics, etc.

I don't mean to flatter him - at all - but he's articulate and confident, which makes 'good' TV watching.

Personally I don't like his politics one bit, but I think the above is the reason why he's always on air. He's of course a good 'opposition' POV to the Left so the BBC can say they are creating political 'balance.

If you've got two or three Left-leaning politicians on the programme someone probably says, "I know, let's get old Nige in..."

nanna8 Sat 01-Jun-24 02:02:40

I have to say he is a good speaker but then so were a lot of people who swayed millions! I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer. I also think it is a mistake by the BBC to totally diss him because people notice things like that and are more likely to be interested in what he has to say. He is not a candidate,though, so shouldn’t appear during the electioneering.

Peartree Sat 01-Jun-24 05:38:22

Chestnut

Casdon Why are we not seeing more of the actual candidates though, or Richard Tice? Farage is now on TV so often that it’s predictable what he’s going to say, and voters needs to hear a wider viewpoint of what Reform’s plans are.

That's a good question. Why aren't we seeing more of Reform on TV? I notice the BBC News gave a summary of what each party had done that day, all parties including Plaid Cymru, DUP, SNP, Greens......but not a word on what Reform had done. The BBC is supposed to be impartial so why are they leaving them out?

The BBC have never been impartial.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 01-Jun-24 06:03:34

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.

Freya5 Sat 01-Jun-24 07:51:45

Whitewavemark2

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.

This should be known as thr far left GN, anyone who disagrees with the status quo on here is vilified and called racist. An argument used by those, especially you, when you have no valid argument to disprove what Farage says.
Telling the truth is not being racist.
europeanconservative.com/articles/news/almost-half-of-british-muslims-say-they-sympathise-with-hamas/

Whitewavemark2 Sat 01-Jun-24 07:58:22

Heseltine that well known far left politician called out Farage/Reform/UKIP has this week at the Hay festival stating that there is a racist core to everything these outfits do and say.

So I guess I’m as far left as Michael Heseltine.

Who’d have thought😄😄

ronib Sat 01-Jun-24 08:07:52

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:26:29

LizzieDrip

^I agree with the last sentence, which is why I don't understand why he gets so much attention and people take any notice of what he says^

Agreed. Open Britain have today put out a letter for people to sign & submit, complaining to the BBC about his appearance on last night’s Question Time. He’s not a candidate for any party and, as such, the BBC should not be giving him air time. He completely took over the programme last night. Horrible little man!

This is completely untrue. To begin with, there were only two politicians on Question Time on Thursday evening. Neither Reverend Rose Hudson-Wilkin nor Piers Morgan are politicians nor are they seeking to be elected. Are you saying only politicians or those who are seeking to be elected should appear on Question Time? That’s never been the pattern up to now in all the years since the programme began.
As for Open Britain putting out a letter for people to sign about his appearance on Question Time, well it’s a free country, and they have an agenda. No doubt some highly motivated ‘open up Britain to the world’ people will sign it. That’s up to them, I wouldn’t bother wasting the ink, or my time.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:32:47

Horrible little man

That’s an interesting comment.
Posters became extremely offended and agitated when Macron was described by someone on here as a little man. They didn’t like it at all.
So does it depend on who is being described as a little man as to whether or not those very same posters (some on this thread) get upset about someone being described as little. confused

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 08:39:22

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

Eh? Liberals do accept other people's points of view, so either he's liberal or he's not.

I would imagine that Heseltine finds being called "a proper full-on modern day liberal" hilarious.

Freya5 Sat 01-Jun-24 08:40:51

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

He's absolutely right on Heseltine.

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 08:41:42

Freya5

Whitewavemark2

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.

This should be known as thr far left GN, anyone who disagrees with the status quo on here is vilified and called racist. An argument used by those, especially you, when you have no valid argument to disprove what Farage says.
Telling the truth is not being racist.
europeanconservative.com/articles/news/almost-half-of-british-muslims-say-they-sympathise-with-hamas/

Wrong! No, they're not.

Telling the truth and being non-racist are not synonymous.

There's more to "telling the truth" than cherry picking a few facts to fit an agenda, which is what Farage does.

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 08:42:04

Freya5

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

He's absolutely right on Heseltine.

He can't be. What he said is illogical.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:42:37

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 08:43:24

nanna8

I have to say he is a good speaker but then so were a lot of people who swayed millions! I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer. I also think it is a mistake by the BBC to totally diss him because people notice things like that and are more likely to be interested in what he has to say. He is not a candidate,though, so shouldn’t appear during the electioneering.

Goebbels was an excellent speaker. His speeches were textbook examples of how to sway people's opinions.

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 08:44:05

maddyone

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

Oh! There certainly are. It's a shame they don't recognise it in themselves.