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Nigel Farage

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nanna8 Fri 31-May-24 01:16:38

Last night,having nothing better to do, I watched Nige on Utube. He is quite savvy, creepy though he may be. He said the British election was already lost, Starmer will be returned as PM and the Labour Party will be on the nose after 5 years in power which is when the Reform a party will step in with an overwhelming majority. I actually think he might be right. He also thinks Trump will get in even with a guilty verdict and he wouldn’t say if he had been offered a post if and when he did. So Donald, his best mate, probably has something to offer there. Interesting.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:45:48

Well I certainly agree with you on that growstuff

MaizieD Sat 01-Jun-24 08:46:40

maddyone

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

Indeed. And Farage knows exactly how to manipulate them.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:48:22

I doubt Gransnet is Farage’s targeted audience.

ronib Sat 01-Jun-24 08:50:52

maddyone very true but Starmer and Sunak are definitely canvassing the older generations.

maddyone Sat 01-Jun-24 08:59:48

Yes, they may well be ronib, but Farage isn’t standing for office and isn’t in either of their parties. Posters are becoming very exercised about a person who is an irrelevance to the election. As were two of the other participants on Question Time on Thursday. It’s called presenting a balance of views, something the BBC is obligated to do, and which they managed well on Thursday, although I don’t think they always manage it.

Tiley Sat 01-Jun-24 09:01:32

I quite like him, I find it quite refreshing to hear his no nonsense speaking. In the future I can see myself voting for the Reform Party but feel it is early days for them so will vote Conservative at next election.

growstuff Sat 01-Jun-24 09:07:44

Tiley

I quite like him, I find it quite refreshing to hear his no nonsense speaking. In the future I can see myself voting for the Reform Party but feel it is early days for them so will vote Conservative at next election.

Eh? I ignore him as much as possible, but most of what I hear of what he says is nonsense.

MaizieD Sat 01-Jun-24 09:23:17

maddyone

I doubt Gransnet is Farage’s targeted audience.

His 'target audience' is anyone who is likely to agree with his racist narratives . There are plenty of people on Gnet who are open to them.

I"m never quite sure what he wants his acolytes to do once he has attracted them, though.

ronib Sat 01-Jun-24 10:08:58

MaizieD technically acolytes light candles…..

Dickens Sat 01-Jun-24 10:37:22

nanna8

I have to say he is a good speaker but then so were a lot of people who swayed millions! I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer. I also think it is a mistake by the BBC to totally diss him because people notice things like that and are more likely to be interested in what he has to say. He is not a candidate,though, so shouldn’t appear during the electioneering.

I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer.

Of course, it's a matter of opinion, but I agree with you - unfortunately!

There's also another matter. Our leading politicians, PMs - vying for power, all have to choose their words carefully because of the way they will be interpreted by the voting public, scrutinised by the opposition and, not least - the media - if they are giving any indication of the way they are going to 'move forward' which of course sometimes leaves you scratching your head wondering quite what it is they are saying. Although Sunak appears to have thrown caution to the wind and gone for the catchy sound-bite; sick-note culture being an example.

But Mr Farage is not similarly constrained - he can "tell it like it is" which is very appealing to those who like their politics to be clear-cut, and which leads them to believe he's saying "what most of us think".

In contrast, Starmer, caught on the hop, puzzling over what it is that constitutes being a woman - carefully side-stepping both sides of the aisle so as not to offend either, sounds rather tongue-tied by comparison.

Diplomacy constricts - and I don't think Farage is at all bothered about being tactful because he doesn't need to be!

For those of us in the middle ground who aren't totally committed to either Left or Right, it's a quandary. Sometimes I listen to Starmer and think, yes - he's right on that. But there have been occasions when Sunak has said something about an 'issue' - and I've thought exactly the same thing. But, I am swayed by the notion that this current Conservative government has made a real hash of things over the last 14 years. If you are at all concerned about the state of our public services, then the evidence is all around you.

So Farage can pick and choose now what he pontificates on, but I do wonder if he's not more concerned with being a political 'celebrity' with regular appearances on TV, rather than being a serious politician.

Chestnut Sat 01-Jun-24 11:03:51

Good post Dickens. Similarly our ex-Prime Ministers often talk a lot of sense and say it like it is.

Bumface Sat 01-Jun-24 11:06:24

The fact that Farage is a fan of Trump is enough for me to fear him, leaving aside all other considerations. The USA is in crisis as they can only choose between two old men for president. One is clearly past it and one is, to put it mildly, bonkers. The situation in the UK is also quite bad though nothing like as bad as in the USA. Here we have an incompetent, corrupt Tory government that is well past its sell by date and the only viable alternative seems to be the underwhelming Labour party. Don't get me started on the Lib Dems. I wonder if any of the lunatic fringe parties is standing. Perhaps the 'Free Chocolate Chip Cookies for Pensioners' party.