Labour in line to get the largest majority since 1832......

Same here Anniebach. Additionally many couples choose not to marry these days. They save up for a deposit rather than an expensive wedding.
Yes, they could have a small, inexpensive wedding but that’s the least popular option for most

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Andrea Leadsom, until recently a senior conservative, in 2022, said

“The triple lock on pensions could become means-tested because many richer OAPs "don't need it”….
uk.news.yahoo.com/pensions-triple-lock-could-be-means-tested-as-rich-oa-ps-dont-need-it-senior-tory-says-173546983.html

Germanshepherdsmum

That is not a matter of concern to me.

What is not a matter of concern?

Yes

Wyllow3

Andrea Leadsom, until recently a senior conservative, in 2022, said

“The triple lock on pensions could become means-tested because many richer OAPs "don't need it”….
uk.news.yahoo.com/pensions-triple-lock-could-be-means-tested-as-rich-oa-ps-dont-need-it-senior-tory-says-173546983.html

It would be very wrong to penalise people for paying into occupational pensions when they have budgeted for having the state pension too. The only fair way would be to give a minimum of 15 years' notice, which would mean being seen to be unfair to young people in comparison to the old.

Who would pay into an average occupational pension knowing that doing so would deny them the right to a state pension? Sunak talked about abolishing NI, so if anything the idea of attacking the state pension is more of a Tory idea than a Labour one.

I think it's far more likely that higher and additional rate tax relief on pension contributions will be removed, and a figure of 30% for everyone has been mooted. It's easy for me to say as it's unlikely to be applied retrospectively, but I think that is fair. Even then, it would be wrong to apply it to those approaching retirement age, which brings us back to the optics of disadvantaging younger people.

GrannyGravy13

Dinahmo I am not hurt, just surprised!

Our son and his partner have a child

Our daughter has two children

Neither are married, illegitimate child/ren is a throw back to past years when it was used as an insult and slur to indicate a so called ^fallen women^

Neither of my adult children are married, one has one child and the other two.
Just because people have children in marriage it does not make them parents.

Doodledog

Germanshepherdsmum

My standards include not having an illegitimate child and speaking decently.

Fair enough. Each to her own. I don't look down on 'illegitimate' children either, and wouldn't be so ill-mannered as to reference them on a board where numerous women could be hurt by such a crass remark if I did.

I used to have respect for you, GSM, but the past couple of weeks are eroding that. Your politics are up to you, as are everyone's and I don't hold them against people, but sheer unpleasantness is unnecessary and undignified. I thought you were better than that.

This post may be what you’re looking for Doodledog

Ah. I see.

thank you

GSM your comment was cruel and rather imperious . You sound like someone from days gone by. Calling any child illegitimate is vile.

Maybe my Christian beliefs are out of date but I make no apologies for them.

It says the state pension could eventually become means tested with the Labour party in government. The article is by Sir Edward Troup who advises Rachel Reeves.

Ah. GB News.

The SP 'could eventually' become means-tested.

Well, it could, eventually, be increased or doubled. And who knows who would be in power if or when that happened?

The previous page has full details of the GB article and references, inaccuracies:

and includes an article in the Telegraph proposing it, showing its nether a new nor a Labour idea,

and above on this page a statement directly from leading Tory Andrea Leadsom suggesting possibility of means testing.

Germanshepherdsmum

My standards include not having an illegitimate child and speaking decently.

So what was your opinion of Boris Johnson, GSM?

GrannyGravy13

If Labour get in with a so called super majority they cannot be held to account by the opposition.

They will have carte blanche to do as they please.

A strong and capable opposition is an asset to Westminster.

A bit like Boris Johnson and look at the damage he did!

GSM

There’s nothing wrong with being a Christian and having strong morals. However, last time I read the bible, admittedly many years back, I recall Jesus “suffering the little children” and turning the other cheek and preaching tolerance, understanding and forgiveness.

The problem with maintaining very high standards is often others cannot reach them.

Please don’t judge others by your own unbending standards.

Iam64

MaizieD good post

Callistemon - the invasion of Iraq was wrong on every level. I can’t let that destroy the positives Blair brown achieved

I agree.

I agree that it’s important that government has a good opposition but nobody forced the Conservatives to destroy themselves by trying to morph into UKIP.

The problem with maintaining very high standards is often others cannot reach them.
The problem is assuming that one set of standards trumps another. Live and let live.

I am relieved. After 14 years I have had enough of the Tories as have most people.