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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:38:33

I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:39:38

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

So if Peter Hitchins has changed, why couldn't Starmer?

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:41:47

Whitewavemark2

I thought that it isn’t very well mannered to talk about your personal finances.

Something we never do.

My Mum would have said it's common to talk about money and boast about how much you've earned. hmm

Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 04-Jul-24 19:42:59

Whitewavemark2

I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️

I know what you mean. I’m waiting for 10 pm and the first exit polls. I may have a glass of something alcoholic to calm my nerves and another one later if it all pans out!

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:43:22

GrannyGravy13

^greedy and grabby^

bricking it

Zakouma66 how eloquent.

Well, it would challenge "gob on a stick".

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 19:45:27

MaizieD

^Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.^

Now why get the second hand version of the horrors in store when you can hear it for real as Michael Green channels Allister Heath of the Daily Telegraph.
(yes, he's reading it word for word...)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCtzapQY1M8

Isn't that Grant Shapps' alter ego?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:54:34

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

I thought that it isn’t very well mannered to talk about your personal finances.

Something we never do.

My Mum would have said it's common to talk about money and boast about how much you've earned. hmm

And mine.

Never ever boast or even talk about your finances, because you may be talking to someone not so well off and that was a very bad thing to do.

I feel the same. I’m the same with everything - I avoid like the plague anything that I feel is ostentatious, or name dropping etc. No one needs to know about how wealthy I am or not.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 20:03:41

I rely on my posh accent to make people think I'm wealthy! grin hmm

Wyllow3 Thu 04-Jul-24 20:19:17

Just watched the Alister Heath U tube reading.

Heath is seriously off his trolley.

rosie1959 Thu 04-Jul-24 20:19:26

Whitewavemark2

I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️

I really would not worry Whitewave it's pretty much a done deal if Labour don't win this election they never will.
Never voted Labour in my life but wish them well think they have quite a uphill climb.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 20:24:48

growstuff

I rely on my posh accent to make people think I'm wealthy! grin hmm

😀😀 I have a Cornish accent so that is good.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 20:38:09

Whitewavemark2

growstuff

I rely on my posh accent to make people think I'm wealthy! grin hmm

😀😀 I have a Cornish accent so that is good.

Hmmm! Some people might think you're a bit of a yokel. I trust you dress professionally and never use words like "scum" or "gob".

LizzieDrip Thu 04-Jul-24 20:45:47

“Whitewavemark2
I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️”

Oh WW I’m the same. Just can’t wait for the polls to close and we get the exit polls - but even they can be wrong!

Our Labour hearts have been broken so many times…

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-Jul-24 20:50:02

Dear God …

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 20:50:16

growstuff

Whitewavemark2

growstuff

I rely on my posh accent to make people think I'm wealthy! grin hmm

😀😀 I have a Cornish accent so that is good.

Hmmm! Some people might think you're a bit of a yokel. I trust you dress professionally and never use words like "scum" or "gob".

Dress professionally? give me a break my lover😀.

Scum and gob? Not so much but Maid and me ansom used all the time.

Doodledog Thu 04-Jul-24 20:54:46

LizzieDrip

“Whitewavemark2
I’m beginning to panic - 😳 worried it isn’t going to happen☹️☹️”

Oh WW I’m the same. Just can’t wait for the polls to close and we get the exit polls - but even they can be wrong!

Our Labour hearts have been broken so many times…

I feel similar. I'm fairly confident, but I won't be cracking open the champagne (alcohol free, unfortunately) until it's a done deal. I well remember the Kinnock debacle.

Freya5 Thu 04-Jul-24 22:28:49

Casdon

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.

Not reading at all, listening. Just because you close your ears to all but Starmer. Let's see shall we .

Eloethan Thu 04-Jul-24 23:54:39

I've become increasingly despairing over the last 14 years of chaotic and corrupt Conservative rule. Nothing can be as dreadful as these last 14 years.

I do have some sympathy for Sunak. He is being blamed for his party's disastrous result but the real culprits were Johnson and Truss.

Eloethan Thu 04-Jul-24 23:56:29

I also have sympathy for the Labour Party which has been left with this absolute mess to clear up.

Wyllow3 Fri 05-Jul-24 00:26:04

Eloethan

I've become increasingly despairing over the last 14 years of chaotic and corrupt Conservative rule. Nothing can be as dreadful as these last 14 years.

I do have some sympathy for Sunak. He is being blamed for his party's disastrous result but the real culprits were Johnson and Truss.

Yes, Sunak is being blamed for more than fair share.

"I've become increasingly despairing over the last 14 years of chaotic and corrupt Conservative rule. Nothing can be as dreadful as these last 14 years." And the way they've run the elections was to try and increase the despair/hopelessness, few positives.

Kandinsky Fri 05-Jul-24 06:47:26

Well done Labour. Best of luck.

Nice to see Nigel Farage finally becoming an MP though. MP’s question time will certainly be interesting! 😄

Callistemon213 Fri 05-Jul-24 06:51:32

I do have some sympathy for Sunak. He is being blamed for his party's disastrous result but the real culprits were Johnson and Truss.

Yes, they are. Plus Cameron for calling the referendum although it was on Labour's manifesto too years ago, I think.
I think Sunak is basically a decent man but perhaps not suited to being PM.

David49 Fri 05-Jul-24 07:03:16

Here the popular local LD candidate overturned a 22000 Tory majority, well done.

Nationally I’m surprised the increase in vote to Labour was so low, only a 1 or 2% swing. It’s the headbangers who voted Reform that sunk the Tory vote, it’s scary that the Tories are not hard line enough for them.

SNP who campaigned on an independant Scottish Nation totally rejected, so that settles that issue for a while.

Daddima Fri 05-Jul-24 07:59:01

David49

Here the popular local LD candidate overturned a 22000 Tory majority, well done.

Nationally I’m surprised the increase in vote to Labour was so low, only a 1 or 2% swing. It’s the headbangers who voted Reform that sunk the Tory vote, it’s scary that the Tories are not hard line enough for them.

SNP who campaigned on an independant Scottish Nation totally rejected, so that settles that issue for a while.

Independence was only one of the issues SNP campaigned on, along with opposing spending cuts, increasing NHS funding, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, and rejoining the EU.
At the last election they gained many votes from people who wanted Tories out, and SNP were the best alternative, so when the polls were all in Labour’s favour they could all return to them. I am disappointed in just how much of a massacre it was, but I didn’t really expect anything else, especially after their financial problems, which were well reported.

Casdon Fri 05-Jul-24 08:34:41

Freya5

Casdon

Freya5

Wyllow3

Scaremongering.

What evidence for "when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late."

or
"One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy."

In a former life Starmer was a member of Socialist Alternatives, a magazine for the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency, he denounced the use of "paramilitary policing", and questioned the role of the police in civil society.
Peter Hitchins, himself an ex Trotskyist does an eye opening talk on the case against Labour and Keir Starmer.
Let's see shall we.

Crikey, somebody has been reading Conspiracy Theories for Beginners.

Not reading at all, listening. Just because you close your ears to all but Starmer. Let's see shall we .

I don’t though Freya, I’m not blind to his faults. I do know though that only somebody who hadn’t paid any attention to what he has done to transform the Labour Party, and how many on the left he has alienated (witness the number of independent former Labour candidates being elected) could possibly suggest something as off beam as you did.