growstuff
The last thing the next government will be is "Corbyn-inspired".
They live in a right wing propaganda bubble, growstuff 😂
I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.
growstuff
The last thing the next government will be is "Corbyn-inspired".
They live in a right wing propaganda bubble, growstuff 😂
I have never forgotten that Blair (the warmonger) encouraged swathes of foreigners into this country - a policy I never got to vote on. I was never asked if I wanted a "multi cultural " Britain.
growstuff
GrannyGravy13
maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.
(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)Where and when did Labour promise that? I think that's a tad hyperbolic!
Having watched Sir Starmer and his Cabinet in waiting say that in the first 100 days of a Labour Government they will have more GP, Hospital and Dentist appointments available.
No hyberbole in my post growstuff
I imagine we will have five years of Labour constantly saying they cannot achieve their manifesto promises due to the problems they inherited.
It happens after every election, the Government of the day blaming the previous encumbrance, for its failings, always has always will.
If they win, they have inherited a load of problems though
I remember the first 100 days promises too. That will come back to bite them.
All this grumbling already that a Labour government won’t be able to magic up teachers, dentists or doctors. Surely no-one believes in miracles. What we hope is that a Labour government will attempt to repair the huge damage caused by this government.
^ I was never asked if I wanted a "multi cultural " Britain.^
I don't suppose that the forebears of the people who came here as a result of the British Empire were ever asked if they wanted a load of white men to take over their countries, exploit their resources, enslave some of them, impose their culture etc. were ever asked if that was what they wanted.
Miracles were promised. They will not be delivered.
yggdrasil
We won't have a Labour govt tomorrow. Whatever Starmer calls it, it bears no relationship to the Labour party I have supported for years. I will just wait to see what he really has in mind, what else could I do
That's how I feel as well. A party that doesn't prioritise child poverty is not one I can get excited about.
Germanshepherdsmum
Miracles were promised. They will not be delivered.
Miracles haven't been promised - quite the opposite.
"No hyberbole in my post growstuff"
I disagree!
I have to agree with the Reform Party that the Uk needs to revise its whole system of government. I don’t know how mind you….although reducing House of Lords, limiting power of First Division Civil Service and presumably tinkering with the Bank of England to enable any elected government to govern.
Well it’s a start but won’t happen anytime soon so in the interim, expect more of the same? Labour may well win this election but who really governs this country?
Iam64
All this grumbling already that a Labour government won’t be able to magic up teachers, dentists or doctors. Surely no-one believes in miracles. What we hope is that a Labour government will attempt to repair the huge damage caused by this government.
I am not grumbling.
I think Sir Starmer and his Cabinet will quickly realise that the world is a different place to when Labour were last in power.
They have made lots of promises, they have also been surprisingly silent on a lot of issues.
If they manage to sort out the NHS, Schools and Care System without alienating middle earners, hats off to them.
True colours emerging there ronib
I am worried.. Hoping they don't get a big majority.
No government can deliver more GP appointments, more NHS appointments, or more teachers within 100 days. I very much doubt that they can provide more of many of these over the five years that a Parliament runs, due to the length of time it takes to train these professionals. More could be provided by the immoral practice of poaching the educated groups from other countries, many of them poor, and in desperate need of their own professionals to support their own services and economies. But none of it can be delivered in 100 days, which I have also seen claimed, and so no, it’s not hyperbole.
I don’t live in a right wing bubble, or a left wing bubble, because I live in the real world. I’m a realist.
Iam64
All this grumbling already that a Labour government won’t be able to magic up teachers, dentists or doctors. Surely no-one believes in miracles. What we hope is that a Labour government will attempt to repair the huge damage caused by this government.
It’s not grumbling Iam, it’s called being realistic. I admire the wish, I realise it’s not possible.
I'm very worried about a Labour win. We're not well off by any means but I read about the extra taxes they are considering on highish value houses (we bought ours 40 years ago so are asset rich, cash poor), inheritance tax, taxing State Pension etc. The extra power to be given to the Unions so they'll be given any pay rises they ask for, votes for 16 & 17 year olds. I could go on. I'm interested in politics but most folk aren't and will vote Labour just to get rid of the Tories as they don't consider the cost of paying folk's wages to stay at home during Covid, their energy bills and the cost of helping the war in Ukraine. Things are improving but there's not enough time for folk to feel it in their pocket before the election. I hope if Labour gets in it'll be for the shortest time possible.
maddyone
I don’t live in a right wing bubble, or a left wing bubble, because I live in the real world. I’m a realist.
ditto 👏👏👏
maddyone
I don’t live in a right wing bubble, or a left wing bubble, because I live in the real world. I’m a realist.
I don't think that you said anything about a Labour government being 'Corbyn inspired', maddyone
Which was what I was primarily referring to.
"Country before party, always" will do for me, as Starmer has promised.
That's a whole heap better than we have had.
Iam64
True colours emerging there ronib
Iam64 time will tell- how about an honest look at how many times the next Labour government fails to deliver on its promises? And why and then ask if this is democracy in action.
I’m in the being realistic gang maddyone. I’d be negative and anxious if I thought we were about to elect another Conservative government. The total lack of concern for public services, the push towards privatisation has caused real damage. It will take years to re-build.
I am genuinely fearful of any government that thinks Angela Rayner is suitable to be a Member of Parliament, let alone hold high office.
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