Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

Mine too, and she wasn't even a home owner with savings!

Sums her up perfectly.

There seemed to be collective hysteria here because of something that happened in America - a very different country with different policing methods

Those were exactly my thoughts at the time, and I still think that.

MissAdventure

I don't think quietly going down on one knee is exactly hysterical behaviour.

No, not that.
Although it was cringeworthy.

The riots and protests.

I have just voted tactically for the first time. Feel so frustrated and totally disenfranchised.
There is no party I trust. The politicians are so busy slating each other, they seem to change their views depending who they are being questioned by.
So worried about where the country is headed.

Callistemon213

MissAdventure

I think taking the knee was appropriate, considering a man lost his life at the hands of police.

Peacefully made the point.

In the USA.

Windrush scandal was here in the UK.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windrush_scandal

We still have pockets of Institutionalised Racism in the UK
www.policeconduct.gov.uk/our-work/key-areas-of-work/race-discrimination

and as quotes from Reform candidates come out, plenty of individuals here.

www.ft.com/content/35ef8484-87f2-442f-9280-a8f424b0dab5

An effective, peaceful gesture.

MissAdventure

I don't think quietly going down on one knee is exactly hysterical behaviour.

No, but the violent demonstrations and riots were.

Iam64

HousePlantQueen
Primrose53
Not exactly doom but a feeling of embarrassment that flip flopping Starmer could be in charge and, even worse, will have the foul mouthed “gob on a stick” as she is frequently called, alongside him.

Imagine them representing our country with leaders from all nations and then they rock up! 🤮🤮
I will never forget that picture of the two of them taking the knee! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a vulgar comment
My mum would say ‘common’

No more ‘common’ than Raynor calling Tories ‘scum’
She is a complete embarrassment.

It was nothing to do with the Windrush scandal, it was a reaction to the murder of George Floyd in the USA.

Yes, but we surely are past a time of lumping everyone together.

There are always riots when there are protesters, but everyone is an individual.

Yes it was Callistemon.

I've just voted too Fleur, it was quite busy

I wish people wouldn't call people common, it's degrading. We cannot help where we are born or who we are born to. Our background gives us a unique identity and nobody should be ashamed of who they are and where they come from. The Labour party was originally set up to give working class people more representation in parliament, AR is working class.

Many of the shadow cabinet are from working class backgrounds. Thankfully.

Professor Sam Friedman of the LSE has calculated it at 46% (compared to 7% for Sunak’s) and I haven’t seen any scholars - or politicians - disputing that.

Callistemon213

It was nothing to do with the Windrush scandal, it was a reaction to the murder of George Floyd in the USA.

I know what the precipitating event was of course.

What then happened in the US and UK was the Black Lives Matter Movement driven by the many factors I've mentioned above and some I haven't, like racism in football. And yes, Windrush was alluded to in Black Lives Matter, I know, I was involved locally. (as far as one could be, in Covid).

I wasn’t referring to Angela as common

AR is working class

No. She was working class. Now she’s middle class.

I think class is about a whole lot more than money or property.
Money can't buy it.

I wonder if you ever change class. I subscribe to the theory that you don’t. No matter how many trappings of a middle class lifestyle I have (education, cultural capital, career, and so on), I sm working class. My children, however, are not.

maddyone

^AR is working class^

No. She was working class. Now she’s middle class.

"We're all middle class now"
#John Prescott.

Apart from Prescott who is a Lord!

Siope

I wonder if you ever change class. I subscribe to the theory that you don’t. No matter how many trappings of a middle class lifestyle I have (education, cultural capital, career, and so on), I sm working class. My children, however, are not.

same, even my own family think my kids are posh

Anyone who can speak of Angela Rayner as a ‘gob on a stick’ is an example of ‘a gob on a stick ‘ ?

Maddyone - are you a doctor or ever worked in the NHS because unless you can answer yes to either you do not know the true facts about drs pay.

Optomistic1

Maddyone - are you a doctor or ever worked in the NHS because unless you can answer yes to either you do not know the true facts about drs pay.

🤣🤣🤣

I was an executive officer in the civil service at 19, but I wouldnt have changed class.

It was just a cushy job.

Neither do I feel "less than" for washing bums as my job role.

I just fancied doing it (not the bums part, actually) and found I was quite good at it, and it fulfilled some sort of sense of doing a little bit of good.

Sorry, couldn't resist.