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Nicenanny3 Fri 12-Jul-24 08:30:16

French police stand by and watch the boats leave for Britain. Now you are in charge Yvette Cooper what's your plan after you cancelled the Rwanda deterrent?

petra Tue 16-Jul-24 22:26:01

Callistemon213

So has the Home Office taken on a lot of new recruits and trained them thoroughly in assessing the asylum claims in order to deal with the backlog?
If not, how can this be expedited?

I do know that they have a more up to date computer system.

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 22:27:49

petra

Callistemon213

So has the Home Office taken on a lot of new recruits and trained them thoroughly in assessing the asylum claims in order to deal with the backlog?
If not, how can this be expedited?

I do know that they have a more up to date computer system.

Goodness!! 😯

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 22:28:26

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/aTfPEyei4GI?si=w7WkmjKhpXiJSa5c

All kicking off in Coolock when will our politicians listen to what the people want.

Lets take a closer look at the short video posted here and the facts - and the far right party - behind it.

Coolock is an area of Dublin which has an old factory which the government planned to convert into a centre which was for refugee seekers families as well as single men.

Protesters were held on and off for a few weeks preventing work being carried out before matters came to a head.

The article I refer to below is quite long but needs careful reading as it emerges that the far right Stephen Redmond of the National Party was behind the organisation and co-ordination of the incidents using social media networks

The incidents over time were marked by personal death threats to security guards (“"you’ll end up getting shot, standing there... just so you know what you’re getting yourself in for.”) fire bombs, injuries and ambulances as well as police called

This resulted in arrests.

“https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/
www.youtube.com/shorts/guk8Ihz_it4

The response :

The Irish justice minister called it “an effort to spread fear and hate”

*Dublin city councillor Mícheál Mac Donncha described the incident as "deplorable" and that "violence, intimidation and arson should have no place in our communities".
The burning of vehicles and attempted burning of the building are violent criminal acts and must be strongly condemned," the Sinn Féin representative said*

He said the Department of Integration had said the site was being developed to accommodate families seeking international protection.

“Those responsible should desist immediately," he added.
"This is an effort to spread fear and hate in our communities and the vast majority of decent people want nothing to do with it."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51yvww23nxo

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 22:30:53

Correction to access link to article

www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/

Primrose53 Tue 16-Jul-24 22:44:29

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Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 23:08:16

I agree unnecessary language but it is important to realise his relatively middle ground status, when they say "Chief Immigration Officer" you think "the boss".

By the way, this is the previously posted video of Saunders a few pages back - he doesn't allude to Starmer in it.

x.com/GBNEWS/status/1811473691210883108

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 23:27:37

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growstuff Wed 17-Jul-24 07:50:02

BevSec

So easy to bandy the word racist around. I have never met anyone who is racist, most folks are tolerant and kindly.

I've met plenty of people who are racist. Some of them probably even consider themselves tolerant and kindly - maybe some of them are to their "own".

growstuff Wed 17-Jul-24 07:54:06

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As has been pointed out time and time again, legal immigrants far outnumber any so-called illegal immigrants. You seem to brush under the carpet the fact that the country needs those people. For a start, many of them are students, who bring into the country some £18 billion and spend even more money in the economy. If the argument about shortage of resources is to hold water, you need to think of some other way of replacing that income and finding ways of replacing the work they do.

growstuff Wed 17-Jul-24 07:56:05

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Unfortunately, it's not just his statements. It's the fact that he's wheeled out as some kind of expert when he has never been anything of the sort. He was a middle ranking civil servant, who is at least 8 years out of touch.

Callistemon213 Wed 17-Jul-24 08:02:24

Fair criticism, growstuff

(Which rather proves my point.)

Nicenanny3 Wed 17-Jul-24 08:58:38

youtu.be/-Zx7XDTLfwI?si=EzYzf4KxukAgU3O2

Soft Touch Starmer 'The Friendly One' and more

Iam64 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:03:46

Richard Tice doesn’t impress me in any way.

Nicenanny3 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:06:19

07:54growstuff

It's not up to me to sort out immigration, way above my pay grade, that's what we have politicians for and what a mess they have made of our country. Blair when he opened the floodgates, then Cameron who said he was going to get it down to 10s of thousands, then Johnson, Sunak although I think he at least did have a plan, now soft touch Starmer and the highly overrated Cooper.

Nicenanny3 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:07:54

Iam64

Richard Tice doesn’t impress me in any way.

No surprises there then. Although I think I saw on another thread Angela Rayner 😕

Primrose53 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:10:32

Wyllow3

I agree unnecessary language but it is important to realise his relatively middle ground status, when they say "Chief Immigration Officer" you think "the boss".

By the way, this is the previously posted video of Saunders a few pages back - he doesn't allude to Starmer in it.

x.com/GBNEWS/status/1811473691210883108

That’s your take on it. His title was Chief Immigration Officer and that is what he was! If people think that means “the boss” then that’s their fault.

That doesn’t excuse anybody from calling him foul names.

Primrose53 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:15:31

BevSec

So easy to bandy the word racist around. I have never met anyone who is racist, most folks are tolerant and kindly.

Most people are now well aware that the term”racist” is used to shut down discussion. Just feel sorry for people who do this and ignore them.

Callistemon213 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:22:20

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Iam64 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:25:52

I was surprised by that Callistemon.
Debates get polarised very quickly

maddyone Wed 17-Jul-24 09:37:48

This debate has run its course. Nobody is going to change their view by the look of it. Once we reach the deleting stage, the thread has had its day. Everyone has to accept that other people have different views.

Nicenanny3 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:38:00

Latest statement in response to small boat crossings
Home Office news team, 16 July 2024 - Reactive statements
A Home Office spokesperson said:

"We all want to see an end to dangerous small boat crossings, which are undermining border security and putting lives at risk.

"The new Government is taking steps to boost our border security, setting up a new Border Security Command which will bring together our intelligence and enforcement agencies, equipped with new counter-terror-style powers and hundreds of personnel stationed in the UK and overseas, to smash the criminal smuggling gangs making millions in profit.”

No update today on the new arrivals as yet, or are they trying to keep it secret

LizzieDrip Wed 17-Jul-24 09:42:34

This debate has run its course. Nobody is going to change their view by the look of it. Once we reach the deleting stage, the thread has had its day. Everyone has to accept that other people have different views

I agree maddyone. The thread has changed from a discussion into an echo chamber. 👋👋👋

Nicenanny3 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:47:43

maddyone

This debate has run its course. Nobody is going to change their view by the look of it. Once we reach the deleting stage, the thread has had its day. Everyone has to accept that other people have different views.

Err says you, are you now the self appointed thread checker and stopper was there a vote I must have missed it. Threads stop naturally when people stop posting on them thank you, if this is the case this thread will stop but not because you say it has to.

Callistemon213 Wed 17-Jul-24 09:47:56

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