Yvette Cooper / Migrant Watch / Stopping The Boats

Yes free dental treatment, yet some of us who live here and have paid into the pot can't even get a dentist to look at our teeth 😡 we have to pay if we do find a dentist not free for us.

Arrivals fluctuate, according to weather on the Channel. Thry always have.

The Rwanda scheme was a silly, over expensive, soundbite. We need to liaise (in a friendly way) with the French, and stop it in the Channel.

Hopefully, Labour can do that.

I see my last post was deleted. Obviously, I must apologise for writing the truth. 😑

I thought it had been established that it cannot be stopped in the Channel.

Germanshepherdsmum

All they have ever said is that they will ‘smash’ the smuggling gangs. The Conservatives ‘smashed’ some too, but it’s like a game of whack-a-mole - you take one down and another pops up in its place. We need a deterrent, and I see no sign of that now that the Rwanda scheme has been cancelled, despite other countries considering it a good idea and formulating their own versions. A government containing three human rights lawyers will never be tough on illegal immigration.

You seem to be rather obsessed with human rights lawyers.

I hope Labour do stop them but I won't hold my breath.

I don’t know what you wrote Aveline as it had been written and deleted whilst I was writing my post.
That’s very quick. Someone was quick off the mark to report.

We’ve tried liaising with the French and paid them Lord knows how much money. Fat lot of good that’s done. The gendarmes just ignore people setting off in boats - we’ve seen enough photos to know this is par for the course.

maddyone

I thought it had been established that it cannot be stopped in the Channel.

It couldn’t with the last lot because there was so much aggro with Brexit.

Labour have said they want a more friendly, co-operative relationship with Europe.

🤣🤣🤣

You can’t get much more friendly and co-operative than paying them megabucks.

Germanshepherdsmum

You can’t get much more friendly and co-operative than paying them megabucks.

Yes, I know the Tories did that. As they gave hundreds of millions to Rwanda on a fool’s errand.

Hopefully, we can get a better system now.

It’s pointless blaming a week old Labour government for 14 years of Tory mismanagement. 🤷‍♀️

But do Europe want a more friendly, co-operative relationship with us?
Especially if it means keeping even more migrants. There are already many in France and other countries.

I really don’t think anyone on here is blaming a week old government. Probably everyone of us want whatever the new government has planned to be successful. No one expects results tomorrow, but it would be nice to have some idea of what the government is planning and how it intends to proceed. They have had many years in opposition to think about this, it’s hardly been classified information, and so it’s not unreasonable for people to wonder what might happen.

As I hear it, the French are making the most of playing piggy in the middle. They want Britain to be more co-operative over this issue, but they also want Italy to stop migrants crossing over their border. Basically, they don't want to be inundated, like no one else does.

From now until the end of the Olympics the people traffickers have got carte blanche No doubt they are laughing all the way to the bank 💶💶💶💶💶

The majority of the police who (allegedly) patrol the beaches have been deployed in and around Paris.

Yes GG13, I mentioned that this morning. When we crossed to France and back last month they weren't even checking the dog's paperwork which in the past was a big palaver!

maddyone

But do Europe want a more friendly, co-operative relationship with us?
Especially if it means keeping even more migrants. There are already many in France and other countries.

I don’t know, but nothing else has worked. 🤷‍♀️

Joseann

Yes GG13, I mentioned that this morning. When we crossed to France and back last month they weren't even checking the dog's paperwork which in the past was a big palaver!

Sorry Joseann to metaphorically step on your toes

GrannyGravy13

Joseann

Yes GG13, I mentioned that this morning. When we crossed to France and back last month they weren't even checking the dog's paperwork which in the past was a big palaver!

Sorry Joseann to metaphorically ^step on your toes^

Not at all GG13. Sometimes, it needs saying twice to be believed!

Or even a dozen times judging by those who think these are just empty words on here.

You can’t get much more friendly and co-operative than paying them megabucks

GSM not everything can be solved by simply chucking money at it. Maybe a genuine, respectful working relationship between the UK and France will be a better place to start. The new government aims to achieve this.

Regarding identity cards, I’m all in favour and I was last time this came up. Successive governments have agreed/disagreed about them
in 1995, Tony Blair demanded that "instead of wasting hundreds of millions of pounds on compulsory ID cards as the Tory Right demand, let that money provide thousands more police officers on the beat in our local communities
The battle raged on throughout Labour’s term in office. I read that Gordon Brown decided not to implement the £7billion scheme but to tighten up laws on terrorism.

Sinn Féin was anti ID cards back then, arguing that the potential for harvesting and misusing data was too great.
Labour then introduced them at a cost of £30 per card, but when they lost the election Theresa May said the scheme would be scrapped.
There have been calls for ID since then, but when you think of the arguments about voter ID even on GN it’s no wonder it hasn’t happened.

This report I read on the BBC though the url is nz,
implies that the battle is not yet over.
nz.news.yahoo.com/labour-rejects-tony-blairs-call-170009065.html

Yes, LizzieDrip. At least Starmer endeared himself to the French more by not running off home during the DDAY commemorations!

I have just finished reading 'The Lightless Sky by Gulwali Passarlay. He was 12 years old when his mother, desperate to get him away from the Taliban, paid traffickers to get her son to Europe. It's a heart rendering story. A book everyone should read. Yes, there are many economic migrants but it's a very complex dilema for any Government.