Another evil monster in court

He should never be released.

How Holly must feel hearing what he'd plotted to do to her doesn't bear thinking about.

I read that she could have retained her anonymity because of the charges but decided not to.

I saw the newspaper article when his ex spoke out about what he had done to her and it was horrific.

In cases like this where there is no doubt whatsoever about what these people have done, then it is about time we brought back the death penalty.

Many years ago there wasn't the equipment to prove people's guilt or innocence, but now they are solving crimes from decades ago by using DNA evidence that was taken at the time.

This would ensure that prisoners on death row would not take up prison cells as they would be executed soon so there would be more cells for new criminals to be put.

Also prisoners on death row should not be on it for years, Find them guilty beyond doubt and execute them.

There is only one thing from stopping him being executed is that as far as they know he never murdered anyone that is what will keep him alive in prison.

Life, with a minimum of 15 years, in my opinion I would throw the keys away.

i don't understand that comment.
the death penalty was abolished many years ago in the uk.
i don't think it exists in Europe.
cert not western europe.

I have never been Holly Willoughby's biggest fan but this poor lady must have been terrified when she was told about this evil man's plot to kidnap, rape and murder her. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key. I hope Holly is getting all the support she needs. She shouldn't feel as risk in her own home. Three cheers to the US policeman who reported him otherwise this could have had a tragic ending.

my comment was in response to BigMama 13:27:35.

15 years doesn't seem much for the magnitude of what he was planning. 3 life sentences to run concurrently says 1 life sentence to me. Make him serve those 3 life sentences consecutively. Making him 82.

Agreed, since when was a life sentence 5 years?

Hopefully he will never see the light of day again, parole board will consider at 15 years but hopefully no chance of him being granted parole.
I listened to the judge's account before sentencing, truly horrifying stuff.

Sorry love should mean life, not having a look in 15 years time!

GrannyGravy13

Sorry love should mean life, not having a look in 15 years time!

Absolutely right, 'life should me life' but we need new legislation for that

mean even

Sarnia

I have never been Holly Willoughby's biggest fan but this poor lady must have been terrified when she was told about this evil man's plot to kidnap, rape and murder her. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key. I hope Holly is getting all the support she needs. She shouldn't feel as risk in her own home. Three cheers to the US policeman who reported him otherwise this could have had a tragic ending.

that's what I thought

Lock him up, toss away the key and let him starve!

This is what would happen until the prison reforms of the Victorian era: criminals had to rely on someone on the outside to bring them food or money - if you had no-one to supply these then you passed away from starvation or gaol fever from being incarcerated in unbelievably filthy conditions.

How long would this monster have lasted in those days?

He's a truly terrifying individual. Thank goodness for that US police officer who was on the ball.

These monsters are clever and manipulative though. There have been others in the past who managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the parole board. There was that "Black Cab Guy" who was very nearly released until there was public revolt.

Gavin Plumb should never be released but I don't trust that this will happen.

plumb was making plans to hurt her husband and children too, to get them out of the way.

He worked as a security guard, to keep people safe.

Holly was very brave, she must be having nightmares and will do so for the rest of her life

I hope that the parole board is clear eyed when he comes up for review. I fear that even at sixty three he would pose a significant potential risk to women.

But, on the plus side, this disgusting individual looks like an ideal candidate for a fatal heart attack in the near future. After all, at one point he told the judge he had difficulty just trying to stand up in court because of his weight.

I’m amazed he’s not been incarcerated in Broadmoore for ever!!

The judge thought it unlikely that he would have been able to carry out his evil plan because of his compromised health - due to his gross obesity.

That came under the 'mitigating' circumstances that he enumerated in his summing up.

But quite clearly Plumb was attempting to recruit 'crew' to help him, and if he'd managed to find a suitable accomplice, he might well have tried to carry out his fantasy. Bearing n mind he was also planning to abduct Holly's husband and threaten her children, goodness only knows how it all might have ended.

The man is clearly not very intelligent - in one of his messages he says that he would get Holly to sign some kind of declaration to say that she went willingly with him (to wherever he intended to take her) and that she agreed to everything that would be done to her - if he believes that sort of message / declaration would actually be taken seriously, and believed, he must be very very stupid, apart from anything else.

I think the judge was sentencing according to guidelines - as they do - but I cannot believe this monster will ever be safe around women. But we won't be the ones to decide, it will be the parole board, and I have no idea what criteria they will use to make such a decision, plus, stupid or not, Plumb tried hard when he was arrested to convince the arresting officers that, "well, huh, everyone fantasises about Holly Willoughby don't they" with a mock grin.

Women just are not safe are they? Not on the streets, in clubs, pubs, on public transport, not even in the security of their own homes. These evil bastards make all women prospective victims.

I think that once a man has shown such 'tendencies' - and this one did have previous convictions in spite of the fact his acts were clumsy and probably destined to fail - they should be watched for the rest of their lives. Whatever it is that prompts such fantasies, and acts of violence, doesn't I'm sure magically disappear during their time in prison. All they do is learn how to 'behave' themselves well enough to convince a board of 'experts' that they are 'going straight'.

I find it horrifying.

He committed two previous offences, the second one holding two girls captive in a stock room and tying one up. The first offence was given a suspended sentence, the second offence I don't know, but in a Police Officer's opinion, far too lenient. He has gone on to plan and prepare an appalling attack.
How many of these early release prisoners will go on to offend again, because they see themselves as having 'got away with it.'?
Why will no-one build more prisons?

welbeck

i don't understand that comment.
the death penalty was abolished many years ago in the uk.
i don't think it exists in Europe.
cert not western europe.

I know the death penalty was abolished many years ago but in cases of murder it should be brought back. If the perpetrator is found guilty after DNA checks then they should be executed.

The criminal justice system is ridiculous. This man has got 15 years in prison, that is not justice that is a comedy of errors.