Rachel Reeves has announced that winter fuel payments will only be paid to those on Pension Credit.nsion Credit

LizzieDrip

^As those people who have never worked but were eligible for the full sp can claim pension credits^

I’m a bit confused here. How can someone who has never worked qualify for the full state pension?

The amount of SP you get is based on your number of qualifying years of National Insurance contributions. If someone has never worked, surely they won’t have paid NI.

I’ve paid 41 years of NI contributions but because, as a public sector employee, I was contracted out for most of those years, I still don’t get the full state pension.

I just don’t see that someone who’s never worked will qualify for it.

When you sign on as unemployed, you are credited with NICs, so theoretically somebody who has never worked could have a full contributions record.

ronib

Sorry to hear this HattieTopper. Miliband is very enthusiastic about spending billions on Great British Energy so all being well, energy prices should fall very quickly? Wind and solar power being all the rage …

Oh how do you make that out? They will have to re-coop building the dam things surely?

Many pensioners who are on the cusp do not have any viable means to increase their income. They may not be fit enough to work or unable to find a job because of employer ageism. This is a real kick in the teeth when compared with the "16 hours" a week working age brigade who turn down extra shifts because it will "mess up their UC." Lets hope there are tough new rules get this lazy bunch off their backsides.

paddyann54

I,ve been saying for years that Labour were just tories in red rosettes.Seems I was right,austerity is an ideal not a necessity as most of us know after the last 14 years of Tory rule

Yet the only political party to have a recent ex leader under arrest is? Oh the SNP

Mt61
I don't think you can seriously be blaming Labour for the licence fee!
Didn't they use an opposition day debate to try to prevent it?
That was a Tory decision.

...Also, surely pensions have always been subject to tax.

... sorry. That should have been to HattieTopper! Apologies.

M0nica

I do think that there should have been a taper on the removal of the fuel allowance.

You didn’t mention that in your OP.

How dare someone saying you should down size what a Im alright jack thing to say. Did any of those on here who didnt need the heating benefit think of sending it back? NO! They say I dont need it so I gave it to charity! You lot make me laugh. Im glad Labour are showing thier true colours straight away. I always said the labour voters thought they had a magic money tree. Glad I didnt vote for them. Snobby lot on here makes me sick.

Sunak said he would give them 100 days, it's not even that yet.

Peartree, and also saying we should all leave our homes and go and sit in a warm hub all day!!

Peartree what is the problem? Of course downsizing is always an option if a house owner. It’s not snobby to say downsizing is good to consider in older age. It’s just practical. Especially now we have a government which seems to hate the aged. Maybe go back to multigenerational living as an alternative? Maybe not? Caves?

Just over three weeks in No. 10 and they do this. Sets the tone nicely for what's to come - sickening to think about it. I hope all who voted them in are pleased with themselves, you've done a grand job.

Perhaps they should round us all up and put us on boats like that one for the asylum seekers in Dorset. They had doctors etc on there my next Doctors appointment is the end of August cos my RA pain is not an emergency. Lots of virtual signalling on here.
Oh and might not be able to go to a hub in winter if they close more libarys. I will just throw myself on the mercy of the Salvation Army.

biglouis

Many pensioners who are on the cusp do not have any viable means to increase their income. They may not be fit enough to work or unable to find a job because of employer ageism. This is a real kick in the teeth when compared with the "16 hours" a week working age brigade who turn down extra shifts because it will "mess up their UC." Lets hope there are tough new rules get this lazy bunch off their backsides.

UC doesn't work like that now.

Marg75

Peartree, and also saying we should all leave our homes and go and sit in a warm hub all day!!

slipping, sliding on icy ground on the walk to a warm hub. I can see the sly smile on RR. Deviously get rid of the pensioners whilst supporting the boat people, cheap labour for the future,

But we knew.
Gordon Brown reduced pensions by robbing the pension pot.
Rachel Reeves removes the WFP which will hit all those who are just getting by on the cusp of claiming credits.
Jolly good, all the Jacks on here who don’t need it and passed it on.
Giving, but not fully fundung the teacher’s payrise? What’s the point of that when schools are already underfunded.
Starmer won’t care, because he won’t be affected.
Roll it out Labour.
Next it will be savings, unless I’ve missed that and it’s already happened.

I agree in part with the decision regarding the fuel allowance. Some people don’t need it. But single people only receiving full state pension certainly do need it.
Maybe they should be offered free dental treatment and glasses as some of us have been pushed into private dentistry and certainly can’t afford it. These two things alone are very expensive.
I fear now people will be looking at claiming other benefits such as AA. I know lots of people claiming,with not very much wrong with them which surely is counterproductive.

Rachel Reeves should be ashamed of herself. God help us with this tyrannical government. This is not what we voted for.

JudyBloom

Rachel Reeves should be ashamed of herself. God help us with this tyrannical government. This is not what we voted for.

Unfortunately, it is exactlywhat was voted for!

So do you think if this was in their manifesto they would have won the Election?dont think so.
What else have they up thier sleeves. Worrying times ahead I fear. Labour used to be for the working class then along came Tony Blair. You have to laugh or you would cry.

Oh come on- blaming Labour for the state the Tories left the economy in. At least she's being honest and telling the truth, unlike all those Tory liars,

Mt61

HattieTopper

They took away our free TV licence, now the winter fuel allowance and next April, I bet we will be paying tax on our state pensions. Why not shoot us and have done with it.

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They were the last Tory Government, who also raised the pension throughout the Tripple Lock.
Some people already pay tax on their pensions and always have done.

I meant to add that the raising of the pension brought many into paying tax, as was discussed at great length on this forum.
It also took some pensioners into the higher tax band.

I find it odd that the supposedly caring Labour party are hitting pensioners who are just over the limit for benefits. They may be just managing but this kick on the teeth will not help.

keepingquiet

Oh come on- blaming Labour for the state the Tories left the economy in. At least she's being honest and telling the truth, unlike all those Tory liars,

Don't talk rot ! She wouldn't know what honesty and truth telling are if they hit her in the face. She's just proved that.