More knife crime in Southend on sea

My route home is along the seafront. The police presence for the past couple of weeks has been far beyond what we would normally see.
There was obviously a whisper that something was going to kick off.

Witzend

High time we had water cannons!

We sold them to other countries not afraid to use them.

I hope the Dispersal Order did not include these youths. They should be arrested and charged with carrying offensive weapons, incitement to violence and whatever else can be thrown at them.

Who is providing these weapons? Where do they source them?

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’t that near to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.😾
Seaside places in the UK in Summer, particularly in hot weather have often been a recipe for punch ups and more.
The trend for knife and machete and zombie knife carrying just makes things worse.
As does SM which directs young people to go to these places.

Oreo

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’t that near to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.😾
Seaside places in the UK in Summer, particularly in hot weather have often been a recipe for punch ups and more.
The trend for knife and machete and zombie knife carrying just makes things worse.
As does SM which directs young people to go to these places.

I wasn’t blaming Londoners for everything and it’s one of the nearest seaside resorts and East Enders have come in their droves for decades and decades, most of whom never cause any issues at all.

They used to, now far more likely to go to Spain.
Essex no doubt, like all areas of the UK has it’s own hooigans and thugs.

Hooligans!

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’tthatnear to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.
Southend is about an hour and a half from East London where I lived until recently. I'm guessing the transport police can check where these hooligans came from, but I can't see East London has been mentioned. We have around 3 million people in East London, the majority of whom are law abiding citizens going about their daily lives. Personally I wouldn't move out of East London to get away from gangs, so I wouldn't think a move from Southend, not that I know it well, necessary either.

We used to visit Southend from East London but I haven’t been there in 30 years.

petra

My route home is along the seafront. The police presence for the past couple of weeks has been far beyond what we would normally see.
There was obviously a whisper that something was going to kick off.

I had noticed that petra since about 17th July when I started teen sitting two of my GC.

Oreo

We used to visit Southend from East London but I haven’t been there in 30 years.

Either side (Chalkwell and Thorpe Bay) are still very family friendly.

SM has a lot to answer for.Huge numbers of kids/ young people can be mobilised at short notice to do something, go somewhere.

That’s good GrannyGravy hope this will be a short lived thing, hot weather madness.
Talking to Mum about it today and she said she remembers that in the 60’s and early 70’s there were lots of face offs in seaside places, Brighton particularly.

Oreo

That’s good GrannyGravy hope this will be a short lived thing, hot weather madness.
Talking to Mum about it today and she said she remembers that in the 60’s and early 70’s there were lots of face offs in seaside places, Brighton particularly.

Oh yes the mods and rockers, then it was the skin heads.

GrannyGravy13

JN450

Jaxjacky

Police Dispersal Orders are issued all the time, all over England, I’m not sure about elsewhere.
The police did not ‘just look on’.
Is there some sort of hysteria affecting certain members of GN so they can’t fact check before posting?
Thank you GG13.

That's funny, but the clip I saw which I have just watched again, on X, clearly shows the Police having to stand there unable to affect anything, probably because they had no tasers and waiting for backup - who can blame them with thugs waiving machetes around, I certainly do not. But dont try to deflect from the actual event, parents having to rush their children into a pub and lock the door behind them must have been incredibly frightening. Seemingly trying to downplay 'events' like this because PDO's are issued all the time serves no-one and certainly does not excuse what happened.

No one is excusing what happened!

As you appear to have viewed at least one of the CCTV footage you will also have seen people walking past on the other side of the road, people shopping, etc,

No mass hysteria, no riots.

People walking past, shopping. That tells me we seem to be becoming immune to the daily thuggery that is happening on some of our streets.

Oreo Brighton was a tinderbox in the 60 s I must be your mums age I remember it all very well and the mods and rockers going at each other too, then there was the awful football riots was that 70 s ? Can’t remember it’s all so many decades gone by

GrannyGravy13

I live close to Southend

My AC and GC live even closer.

The CCTV is on the local MP’s X if anyone wishes to view it.

It is not comparable to the riots in Southport.

Apologies if I sound like a Headmistress, (I am not by the way)

You are just lovely. And polite as always.

People walking past, shopping. That tells me we seem to be becoming immune to the daily thuggery that is happening on some of our streets.
I do hope that as a nation, we never become desensitised to bad behaviour of this sort, or any sort really.
I am a Headmistress by the way!!

* was, anyway!

BlueBelle

Oreo Brighton was a tinderbox in the 60 s I must be your mums age I remember it all very well and the mods and rockers going at each other too, then there was the awful football riots was that 70 s ? Can’t remember it’s all so many decades gone by

She’s 83😃
It’s amazing how much she remembers if I mention something that happened way back when.If I mention the football riots from the 70’s I may never get away, as footie hooligans were one of her pet hates. We lived very near the Spurs ground and she would sniff even at raised voices.🤣

GrannyGravy13

I live close to Southend

My AC and GC live even closer.

The CCTV is on the local MP’s X if anyone wishes to view it.

It is not comparable to the riots in Southport.

Apologies if I sound like a Headmistress, (I am not by the way)

Are you for real? Every bit as bad, “ machetes” FGS, want 10 yrs for carrying those

Joseann

^People walking past, shopping. That tells me we seem to be becoming immune to the daily thuggery that is happening on some of our streets^.
I do hope that as a nation, we never become desensitised to bad behaviour of this sort, or any sort really.
I am a Headmistress by the way!!

Are you still, or retired? Either way, respect!

What I often worry about is that instead of piling in to help, people just whip out a phone as if it’s entertainment.
The upside tho is that they can get evidence that way.

Oreo

That’s good GrannyGravy hope this will be a short lived thing, hot weather madness.
Talking to Mum about it today and she said she remembers that in the 60’s and early 70’s there were lots of face offs in seaside places, Brighton particularly.

Mods & rockers

Oreo, I was a very young Head. Primary age children. 1990s - noughties, (the decade not the children!).
I loved every minute. After 15 years, I followed my dream to buy a château in France. Kind of glad I no longer have that responsibility.

Joseann

*Oreo*, I was a very young Head. Primary age children. 1990s - noughties, (the decade not the children!).
I loved every minute. After 15 years, I followed my dream to buy a château in France. Kind of glad I no longer have that responsibility.

Do you do mates rates to come and stay?🤪