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Relief today, KS and the public combined.

(103 Posts)
Cadeby Thu 08-Aug-24 13:41:27

Heartening to see such a turn out of people saying " Not in my name" The thugs scurrying back under their rocks, for now at least.
KS knows his way aroud the system and has acted swiftly.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-Aug-24 14:00:47

I watched him speaking today, and you could palpable hear the relief in his voice as well as see it in his face.

Starmer has this country’s welfare at heart and is serving it just as he said he would do.

I am so pleased that he is someone with whom our country our country can be left safely in his hands.

M0nica Thu 08-Aug-24 14:02:42

Isn't this thread very similar in context to one already running?

Cossy Thu 08-Aug-24 14:04:49

I too am heartened to have a PM who knows his way around our legal system, acts promptly, condemns the thugs and does seem to care.

But what made my heart sing was last night seeing all races uniting across the country to condemn the riots.

🫶👊

rafichagran Thu 08-Aug-24 14:04:58

I am pleased Kier Starmer acted in the way he did.

Fleurpepper Thu 08-Aug-24 14:10:20

Yes, what a relief to have a PM who is in charge and for all the right reasons, supporting true British values of tolerance and inclusivity.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Aug-24 14:16:39

Cobra meeting this afternoon.

eazybee Thu 08-Aug-24 14:17:10

I have rather more faith in the Police , who have held the line despite extreme provocation, than a smooth -tongued politician known for changing his loyalties.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Aug-24 14:23:33

They have to work together in terms of certain strategic discussions. Neither the Police or KS separately could devise those decisions. Everything points towards a current good relationship.

Cadeby Thu 08-Aug-24 14:30:01

eazybee

I have rather more faith in the Police , who have held the line despite extreme provocation, than a smooth -tongued politician known for changing his loyalties.

You are quite correct, it was remiss of me to say nothing about the Police.

Doodledog Thu 08-Aug-24 14:36:14

It does feel as though we are in capable hands. Given that the government has only been in power for a month (less, when this all started) it would have been understandable if they had floundered a bit, but they didn't. I'm sure that KS's many years of experience working with anti-terrorism people will have stood him in good stead.

This may not be over yet, but I feel more confident than I did that even if it's not the organisers will be brought to justice. I also hope that some of the unfairnesses that have led to the generalised discontent that allowed this to spread will be lessened. That can't happen quickly, as the country has been left in such a mess, but if we can be patient and give the government a chance, I am hopeful for the future.

Romola Thu 08-Aug-24 15:00:24

I just hope that the counter-demonstrations against the racist thugs will get reported in the foreign press, so that something of this country 's reputation is repaired.

Mollygo Thu 08-Aug-24 15:03:59

It’s been a good result, especially the use of all those missing prison places and the assembling masses of police instead of complaints about the shortage.

Casdon Thu 08-Aug-24 15:05:58

I think one of the most impressive elements of the response has been the gearing up of the judiciary to deal with offenders, and the tracking down and charging so quickly of those who were involved, whether in person or on social media. I can’t remember such a quick judicial response to any other events, particularly crown court, but happy to be corrected if there has been.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-Aug-24 15:07:38

Casdon

I think one of the most impressive elements of the response has been the gearing up of the judiciary to deal with offenders, and the tracking down and charging so quickly of those who were involved, whether in person or on social media. I can’t remember such a quick judicial response to any other events, particularly crown court, but happy to be corrected if there has been.

Starmer was in charge of the DPP in 2011 and did exactly the same then.

He knows what he is talking about.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Aug-24 15:07:55

Romola

I just hope that the counter-demonstrations against the racist thugs will get reported in the foreign press, so that something of this country 's reputation is repaired.

Your wish my command - Le Monde...

www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/08/anti-racist-protesters-mobilize-against-far-right-rioters-in-the-uk_6711477_4.html

Wyllow3 Thu 08-Aug-24 15:10:59

Lets not forget what we are up against.

Casdon Thu 08-Aug-24 15:23:55

Whitewavemark2

Casdon

I think one of the most impressive elements of the response has been the gearing up of the judiciary to deal with offenders, and the tracking down and charging so quickly of those who were involved, whether in person or on social media. I can’t remember such a quick judicial response to any other events, particularly crown court, but happy to be corrected if there has been.

Starmer was in charge of the DPP in 2011 and did exactly the same then.

He knows what he is talking about.

Well, it’s been impressive. Some of the excuses given have been pathetic, if laughable - one man claimed a stone found in his pocket was for "healing purposes" . He has been jailed.

J52 Thu 08-Aug-24 15:34:14

Yes pathetic excuses, they sound so childish. One pensioner said his cosh was for his own protection, what else was he to do?
Errr, stay at home perhaps.

AGAA4 Thu 08-Aug-24 15:43:42

So glad to see some of the rioters are now off the streets and going to prison. A warning to others hopefully that this will not be tolerated.

Sarnia Thu 08-Aug-24 15:45:10

He did the right thing by doing what he said he would do and acting quickly. How refreshing from a politician. Hopefully, the prison sentences and criminal records will make the hangers on think twice but the hatemongers will likely view incarceration as a badge of courage and consider themselves martyrs. Good for Starmer.

Doodledog Thu 08-Aug-24 15:47:08

Mollygo

It’s been a good result, especially the use of all those missing prison places and the assembling masses of police instead of complaints about the shortage.

Yes, hats off to all concerned.

Casdon Thu 08-Aug-24 15:53:22

Mollygo

It’s been a good result, especially the use of all those missing prison places and the assembling masses of police instead of complaints about the shortage.

I sense a smidgeon of sarcasm. The prison spaces were created by repurposing a young offenders institution and moving them elsewhere. All police leave was cancelled. Prison staff will be even more stretched than they already are. So yes, a result, at a cost. Extreme times call for extreme measures, when the alternative is not jailing people who have rioted.

LizzieDrip Thu 08-Aug-24 15:57:47

Phew! It really does feel like the grown ups are in charge at last👍

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-Aug-24 16:05:25

I was listening to TRIP this morning, and they read out the legal definition of a terrorist.

I think many of the rioters were fulfil the definition.