Right Wing False Flag?????

sassysaysso

OP seems very confused. To suggest the government is behind the "false flag" operation is an amazing leap, not backed up by any evidence.

As for the 15 arrested on Wednesday evening which OP "supposes" are left wing, these arrests break down as follows:
Croydon 10
Waltham Forest 4
Hounslow 1

The disturbances in Croydon were unrelated to the current protests more an anti social behaviour issue. Of the remaining 5, no indication has been given which group they belong to.

This is a good example of how mischief is spread via social media.

Yes thst is exactly the conclusion I have come to.

Any room left down the rabbit hole I can squeeze quite small if I m welcomed

growstuff

RosiesMaw2

Galaxy

It's about last night in particular I think. Nick lowles himself seems to be saying the information was false, the photos you are using were from the previous days.

Nobody is questioning the timing, I just find it hard if not impossible to imply the government is somehow complicit in a “false flag” exercise.
And I don’t think we or anybody should be spreading what is only gossip.

I agree with you. Accusations of "false flag" will further fuel dissent. Gossip can be as dangerous as direct action.

We don’t often agree Growstuff - but well, this time, , exactly my thinking.
There is a particularly sneaky form of muck spreading much favoured by some of the most trashy press of wording some obscure smear as a question - then if you read beyond the monosyllabic headlines, it becomes clear there is NO evidence or foundation and the writer claims to be merely “disproving” some anonymous suggestion. But of course much of the damage is done.
E.g. Was Prince Philip gay? /Are Meghan and Harry splitting up? I have a hazy recollection of others in the past, but I expect you know what I mean.

sassysaysso

Just seen there has been an arrest in Chester of a woman who posted inaccurate information about the identity of the suspect in the Southport murders. She was arrested on Thursday on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and false communications.

There need to be more arrests like this.

Hmm ... interesting. Her name is all over social media, as (allegedly) the first person to publish the fake ID of the Southport attacker. She's quite a prominent influencer and her interactions with people who are even more prominent are coming to light. I wonder if they'll all be deleted and just how far it will go. It could get quite nasty.

Two tier policing

Whitewavemark2

Two tier policing

Undoubtedly, that will be the first accusation.

Sorry in answer to rosiemaw

Callistemon213

Wyllow3

Well, Knowles only ID'd one of the sources of threats very specifically:

That list which was a list of solicitors, their work address, their home residences, in order to encourage personal attacks on these people. Many but not all were Immigration Solicitors.

If Knowles is right on this, it's appalling and direct encouragement to direct violence to there - and their families. In which case the threat could not be ignored. it's bad enough to read social media encouraging attacks on Mosques but people in their homes? It explains why solicitors offices and other premises were boarded up.

I hope these posts will be traced and the posters arrested and charged.

I think it's Nick Lowles, Willow3

Sorry to nitpick but Nick Knowles helps people in need by renovating and changing their homes.

Charged, yes after due process. Not much of that seems to be happening in these cases. Unlike the Manchester airport thugs who are getting due process.
"Starmers words came across as dictatorial, acting under the guise of Democracy."

So you have knowledge of the background proceedings regarding these thugs Freya. and how they are being processed?

Please share. A tv interview tells you nothing about what is happening to them.

Not much due process? Clearly nothing this government does will be acceptable

BlueBelle

Any room left down the rabbit hole I can squeeze quite small if I m welcomed

You're very welcome, there's a little bottle here that says Drink Me and the contents can make you shrink.
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I don’t understand Freya’s point. We saw a video clip of an altercation at Manchester Airport, which was a small part of a longer event. Two policemen are consequently under investigation as well as the people who injured them. That is not the same scenario as a rioter throwing bricks or injuring somebody else, where the whole altercation is recorded on numerous cameras. It’s like comparing a complex equation with a simple addition to say both incidents should be treated in the same way - it just doesn’t add up.

Just posted on another thread but more relevant here- two Asian men just been sentenced as part of the crackdown on these riots - they attacked a group of white men from an anti immigrant demo. Violence from whichever side not to be tolerated.

"Violence from whichever side not to be tolerated." yes.

any violence anywhere isn't to be tolerated
I think even before the attacks on these little girls we had had a thread where we were discussing how much more violence seems to be happening, in all forms. It all needs to be tackled.

JaneJudge

any violence anywhere isn't to be tolerated
I think even before the attacks on these little girls we had had a thread where we were discussing how much more violence seems to be happening, in all forms. It all needs to be tackled.

And things that we say online can fuel this violence. As individuals we have to be very careful about what we say.