School Bombed in Gaza

The Jerusalem Post

www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-813920

refers to the attack as on a "Command Centre" as in planning, not as a military base.

Opposition to Netanyahu within Israel.

www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-08-06/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israels-political-center-is-the-useful-idiot-in-netanyahus-quest-for-absolute-power/00000191-2380-d825-abd9-afa78df70000

I think its important to see Israelis have very differing opinions on the current regime.

On the face of it, this sounds awful, but any anger should be directed at the Hamas regime for being cowardly enough to deliberately choose to hide in schools and hospitals.

Throughout the war, Israel has, where possible, warned citizens to leave certain areas where intelligence has told them Hamas murderers are lurking.

It’s worth bearing in mind that the innocent Israelis attending a music festival last year, were given no warning whatsoever of the atrocities about to be committed by Hamas.

Agree JenniferEccles

Far more complicated. Israel, as I said above, has told citizens of Gaza where to go as "Safe" places and then still attacked.

Of course posters are angry with Hamas, and no one is trying to justify the initial attacks.

but Hamas' growth was at least partly the result of some Israeli's settling further and further into Gaza and restricting access to land and jobs since 1967.

It's a tragic 70 year old narrative.

Its interesting tho, that both neighbours - Egypt and Jordan have spoken up specifically against the school bombing

excuse for Hamas

No.

I am quite clear.

It is possible to have compassion for innocents both sides of the border.

Looking at a historical build up to events - and international forces at work - is not to excuse but to explain.

JenniferEccles

On the face of it, this sounds awful, but any anger should be directed at the Hamas regime for being cowardly enough to deliberately choose to hide in schools and hospitals.

Throughout the war, Israel has, where possible, warned citizens to leave certain areas where intelligence has told them Hamas murderers are lurking.

It’s worth bearing in mind that the innocent Israelis attending a music festival last year, were given no warning whatsoever of the atrocities about to be committed by Hamas.

On the face of it? Have you seen those images? Do you have a good understanding of the history and
complexity of the region?

I certainly don't, not at all.

My small brain wonders how the Palestinians are supposed to behave. From what I can glean from media and talking to people, Hamas is completely embedded in all aspects of every day life.

They controlled everything. There was no means by which families could say " No Thanks, you're not for me"

My only connection with Isrealis was many years ago when they subjected Muslim students to expreme bullying and displayed a worrying knowledge of guns.

More martyrs in Gaza, propaganda is the only weapon Hamas has left, they deliberately fill a school or a hospital then deliberately make appear to be a military base.
If they wanted to reduce casualties they would base themselves away from populations, but that doesn’t get headlines, Hamas is defeated, all they can do is make more martyrs.

Agree David49

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

Hamas situate themselves in schools and hospitals in order to hide behind civilians. Many of the photos they publish are old or not from Gaza at all.

JenniferEccles

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

Nobody in Gaza dare speak out against Hamas, depravation of aid and a beating is the punishment, Hamas murdered all the moderate opposition many years ago, they don’t care how many Palestinians die.

Israel could it is so choose now rebuild the hospitals and send medicines and equipment. The fact Israel is not doing so is evidence that Israel is not only attacking HAMAS but is eliminating all the people who live and die in Palestine.

Agree Caleo

Stock school and hospital so Hamas can move in

JenniferEccles

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

Which other parties were available for them to vote for please?

we can assume quite a lot

We can assume they were terified to do otherwise.

wake up.

Netanyahu pressured the knesset to back Hamas back in the day, wanting to use this to split Gaza from the West Bank.
There is no doubt that he wants to oust Palestinians and always has, this predates the terrible terrorist attacks on Israelis last year, indeed the persecution and killing of Palestinians as well as aid workers and journalists goes back many years.
Just to get things in context.

ronib

There’s no earthly reason for Israel to bomb a school and a mosque if it’s not housing Hamas.

I agree and it’s despicable

Perhaps Jennifer can update us with her take on things?

"On the face of it"

maybe some specialist knowledge at play here.

JenniferEccles

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

Don’t be fooled! This is simply extension of the troubles going on for decades.

It’s about land.

Hammas and Netunyahu are as bad as each other.

Note; just these two, I condemn both Hammas and the current Israeli, I do not condemn Jewish people or the people of Gaza. I especially shed a tear for children both sides of the border

JenniferEccles

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

They cannot destroy Hamas, and trying to do so could take decades, a protracted war which will escalate further. For every Hamas operative killed don't you suppose that young men who have seen their families decimated will now take up arms, young men who otherwise might never have had such feelings of hostility?
What Netanyahu is doing is creating more hatred of Israel in the region and more danger for ordinary innocent Israelis.
Not sure how you think it will ensure the survival of Israelis, quite frankly if I lived in Tel Aviv and had to hide in a safe room and keep guns at hand, I would not congratulate my leader for keeping me safe by annhilating innocent Palestinians and so ensuring that militarised enemies become stronger.
Hate doesn't reduce when your enemy commits genocide.
And an increasing number of Israelis are joining the dots and opposing Netanyahu.
Though obvs you know better.

They cannot destroy Hamas, and trying to do so could take decades, a protracted war which will escalate further. For every Hamas operative killed don't you suppose that young men who have seen their families decimated will now take up arms, young men who otherwise might never have had such feelings of hostility?

I think you’re right about the young men taking up arms because they’ve seen their families decimated.
That’s what happened to start this.

How can it end?

Cadeby

JenniferEccles

The Palestinians in Gaza voted for Hamas some years ago, and although we don’t know just how much support there still is for them, we can assume quite a lot.

There has certainly been evidence of widespread hatred of Jewish people, so much so that this war is about the very survival of Israelis, which is why the destruction of the Hamas regime is an absolute top priority.

Which other parties were available for them to vote for please?

The other party in the last election was Fateh, Hamas murdered them all and Gaza became a dictatorship, committed to the destruction of Israel, no other purpose.
Just like Germany under Hitler or China under Mao opposing them brought swift action, there will be no peace until Hamas is eliminated in Gaza.
This conflict is going to get worse before it gets better, Israel is now fighting on 4 fronts a large scale attack could overwhelm its defenses, the US and others would then step in on a large scale to prevent Israel making a nuclear strike.