School Bombed in Gaza

Genocide

The situation in Gaza is shocking and the way Israel has conducted this war is totally unacceptable. I continue to follow what is happening there via a number of sources. Haaretz is a reliable source that doesn't spout govt propaganda. The IDF continues to kill Palestinian civilians whilst Netanyahu clings onto power with his finger tips and blood.

Israel uses the same old excuse for bombing hospitals etc, that Hamas were using this school as a base. Trying to justify their cruel actions.

There’s no earthly reason for Israel to bomb a school and a mosque if it’s not housing Hamas.

Definition of genocide means any of the following acts committed to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethical, religious or racial group such as

Killing members of that group

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of that group

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part.

Imposing measures to prevent birth within the group

Forcibly transferring children of thst group to another group

Using the above definition of genocide Israel easily meets most if it’s criteria

Israel is committing genocide.

The question is, how will it be stopped?

The October attacks were unforgivable. So is the continued bombardment of the Palestinian people.

ronib

There’s no earthly reason for Israel to bomb a school and a mosque if it’s not housing Hamas.

If Hamas is using the school or mosque to hide in, does that justify killing children ? I don’t believe it does. How can the region recover ?

Iam64

The October attacks were unforgivable. So is the continued bombardment of the Palestinian people.

It has gone way beyond the October attacks.

Way beyond proportionality

And way beyond what most people see as right.

It is genocide

I really do wonder why Netanyahu has such impunity to do as he pleases, he has not only bombed Gaza to the ground and killed nearly 40,000 Gazans, a third or more children, some say almost half. He has bombed Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, and Iran. It seems that the normal rules of engagement or international conventions just don’t apply. Already Israel has broken more international laws than any other country and has been accused of war crimes in The Hague.
More than this he has committed genocide.
Of course any attacks on Israel are equally unacceptable, but a nation cannot just embark upon genocide after terrorist attacks. Imagine if the British government had done that after IRA attacks during the troubles. Would any western nation just stand by and do nothing, especially the US.
This will go down in history as a shameful and dark episode for which all western leaders will share the blame.

@Iam64

I don’t believe it justifies killing innocent children even if a Hamas operative is hiding in the school either.
Let’s flip this and ask, ‘if a Hamas operative was hiding in an Israeli school would the IDF bomb it?’

How many Hamas operatives were killed in the school? More than one I guess.
This is out and out war and it isn’t going to stop. Israel is not going to back down.
It’s not for me to judge the morality of war. I wish it wasn’t happening but it is.

@ronib I hear what you are saying but there are rules even in the theatre of war regarding hitting hospitals, schools, aid workers, and journalists. None of which have been recognised by the IDF.

Babs03 what are the rules for using hospitals and schools to conceal Hamas?

@ronib
Hamas are categorised as a terrorist organisation so are you implying that a first world nation like Israel should also fight like terrorists?
Some might agree with that definition but we are getting into very murky waters here.

Babs03 I don’t know how Israel or Hamas should fight. I don’t think we’re qualified to say.
For me the most important question is how to stop the unnecessary loss of all human life. That’s not going to happen in my lifetime.

ronib

There’s no earthly reason for Israel to bomb a school and a mosque if it’s not housing Hamas.

Israeli intelligence pinpointed that it was being used as a military enclave by hamas and it was a strategic strike.
It wasn’t being used as a school.You can’t believe what the hamas health ministry says on anything.

pinpointed? I don't think so

I don’t believe we can take anything either side says as the truth but looking at photos of Gaza or rather the moon scape it has become I can believe that the number of dead is approx accurate. Israel hasn’t used equipment to pinpoint anything obviously, it has simply employed a scorched earth policy.

It was being used as a shelter for displaced Gaza citizens.

At the beginning of the war the current Israeli regime (which I think its important to separate from the Israeli people as a whole, since there is considerable unrest within Israel)

Was attacking Hamas military bases, ie places where rockets could be launched, etc. Civilians did die in those bombings too of course.

Now it is going after any place where they say Hamas is hiding, or a "control centre"

including places that the Israeli regime have told the Palestinian people it is safe to go

(for example, warnings were sent out to Rafah, but designated safety zones were ID'd, but then attacked).

You cant "eliminate" Hamas in this way.

I agree it has now become genocide. I am also very troubled by attacks in the West Bank by settlers on individuals and families in land grabs. (reported in Haaretz)

I don't fully understand the situation vis a vis Lebanon or Syria so won't comment, but as regards Iran I believe that the USA are using Israel as a base in the region to protect and further the containment of Iran.

USA and the West generally regard Iran as a terror based threat to the world. They give 3.3 billion a year to Israel for military aid. the Germans also give substantial military aid.

Meanwhile people in Gaza only survive because of huge amounts of international aid. The infrastructure is almost totally destroyed.

Its worth reading both Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post.

I believe you are correct, Babs03.

I can't cope with it, selfish I know.

@cadeby I can’t look at it anymore either. The photos of small children injured or worse is just too much.

Good post Wyllow3
I do believe that both the US and Iran having been fighting each other using proxies for many years.
Until that is sorted out I imagine this sort of wholesale massacre will just continue, and Israel will continue to have a free hand.

Correction - have been fighting….