Keir Starmer aka Captain Flip Flop

Mollygo

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I was a LOT worse off when I was changed to universal credit.

Hey ho; there is no one size fits all and makes everyone happy answer.

You don’t have to receive universal credit to get child allowance for your first two children though GrannyGravy, it’s a separate benefit, sliding scale based on income?

Casdon

The introduction of universal credit, and the removal of the child allowance payable to third and subsequent children have affected millions adversely too of course, but that is just probably another excuse from Labour supporters ‘defending Gordon Brown’.

There is no cap on child allowance (£26.50 for first child £24.00 for subsequent children)

There is a cap on claiming Universal Credit for more than two children.

Removing a payment from those who really don’t need it to fund something else? What’s wrong with that?

The introduction of universal credit, and the removal of the child allowance payable to third and subsequent children have affected millions adversely too of course, but that is just probably another excuse from Labour supporters ‘defending Gordon Brown’.

Wyllow for your granddaughter. I really hope she gets the operation she needs as soon as possible🤞How lovely that she adores swimming❤️

Dickens

Wyllow3

Totally agree maddyone -top priority, my GD who is seriously disabled is waiting for an operation which is to straighten her legs and the older she gets the less impact it will have. children in desperate need of CAMHS care on waiting lists at a crucial time in their lives.

Wyllow3

for your GD.

I hope she doesn't have to wait much longer.

It should never have come to this...

Thank you Dickens she has cerebral palsy, almost no eyesight, epilepsy, learning difficulties. she used to be able to walk with a walker but used upper body strength and not her legs enough and now is to big, so its vital. She does adore water and swimming.

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I can't think of any GN's Labour or otherwise (if memory serves) who have agreed its right!

What has come out is the level it's been set at and wanting a change on that front.

Well that excuse didn't take long. 🤣🤣🤣

If removing the WFA to fill the black hole is wrong it’s wrong whoever says it and whenever it’s said. But I don’t expect any LP voters to acknowledge that.
I’m busy investigating the heating claims by MPs.

Yes, definitely check them out!

Just caution as to sources and in the case of young people especially the ability to do so.

Wyllow3

Totally agree maddyone -top priority, my GD who is seriously disabled is waiting for an operation which is to straighten her legs and the older she gets the less impact it will have. children in desperate need of CAMHS care on waiting lists at a crucial time in their lives.

Wyllow3

for your GD.

I hope she doesn't have to wait much longer.

It should never have come to this...

If you have institutions that deliver the lies mentioned in my post, then dont be surprised when people look elsewhere for information.
We cant just get cross about the lies we dont like.

Totally agree maddyone -top priority, my GD who is seriously disabled is waiting for an operation which is to straighten her legs and the older she gets the less impact it will have. children in desperate need of CAMHS care on waiting lists at a crucial time in their lives.

I’m another who thinks the response from Dickens was good and I agree with her.
Neither myself nor Mr M was affected by GB’s tax grab on pension pots, so I have no axe to grind there, but I do feel for those who are affected, basically ordinary people who did not pay into a public pension ( as I did, and now receive a teacher’s pension) but instead paid into a private pension, and many of these people are by no means wealthy.

With regard to the NHS I agree with Iam that the run down of the health service has affected millions, including myself, and the pension pot tax grab does pale into insignificance compared with that, but that presumably is because it doesn’t affect me. I’m one of the seven and a half million who is on an NHS waiting list, and even more annoying than that is the ridiculous number of hoops I had to jump through in order to get even a diagnosis, whereby I could even go on a waiting list. It took an entire year to get a diagnosis , during which time I was sent from pillar to post, seeing different specialists and physiotherapists and other medics, when the diagnosis tool that was staring everyone in the face was denied to me ie an MRI scan. Even then I had to go back to a physiotherapist to have the scan interpreted, which he didn’t actually do correctly, but he did send me on to the spinal team, which was where I needed to be all along, but was denied access to because I had to jump through the other hoops first. If this happened to me, I dread to think how many other people have had to play these ridiculous games before they could get on to the appropriate waiting list. And these pathways have been designed in my humble opinion, in order to keep people off the waiting list that they need to be on. And how it saves money is anyone’s guess, I think it must cost more money, but so long as people are sent running from pillar to post searching for the correct treatment, they are not on a waiting list.

This is my expectation of our new government. They must improve the NHS so that people can access the correct care more quickly. It will take time, but it is my expectation. They have five years to do something about it, and they need to get on with it immediately, because people are suffering now.

Galaxy

Do you mean misinformation such as
Biden is fine
Men are women
Its damaging to Huw Edward's mental health to talk about safeguarding.
Does any of that destabilise democracy/society.
If it's a choice between any of them and a daft petition, I think I would choose the petition.

I mean disinformation such as that spread on the day of the Southport Riots,

Broad claims that Starmer is going to "take away all our freedoms" just because Starmer says that "we need to review" whether to take any action on social media following the riots.
and suggestions that in schools students are taught to be able to critique and make there own minds up about social media information (this has long been in discussion in order to protect young people).

Constant streams of racism in SM as in Islamophobia which stir up hatred amongst our own population, matters of this order.

Constant predictions that our society is "breaking down" or close to "civil war" to make people fearful and foster mistrust in any democratic government. Lies and half truths abound.

Twinnytwin
Your reply made me chuckle , agree it has been quiet. Happygardener you didn’t deserve such negativity. ‘Don’t believe Facebook was one 🙈🙈 she’d already said it was a video of a KS interview

Do you mean misinformation such as
Biden is fine
Men are women
Its damaging to Huw Edward's mental health to talk about safeguarding.
Does any of that destabilise democracy/society.
If it's a choice between any of them and a daft petition, I think I would choose the petition.

That's a good point, Wyllow. I think the timing of the election, which has meant that the new government has come to power when PMQs is not happening hasn't helped.

It won't be long now until things get back to normal.

Mollygo

^This time, the very blow to pensioners that was ridiculed by Starmer when in opposition, is one of his first actions once in power.^

We looked at that on page 8, when it was revealed and references given by Merion that Starmer made remarks in 2022 when the fuel situation was in absolute crisis re winter fuel and not subsequently.

Yes a good post.

and yes MayBee70 we need a good opposition to represent those unhappy with the government, to deal with issues as they came up, present alternatives/amendments instead of this ludicrous social media centred snipes and petitions when this government has only been in position for such a short time.

I think there is a real danger from those who seek not just to criticise the current government,

but to de-stabilise our democracy and the way it works - which is through due process not attacks by tweets and provocative disinformation as we saw during the riots.

I look forward to the return of parliament when a series of specific law-making and the budget gives us grounds to debate issues as they come up.

This time, the very blow to pensioners that was ridiculed by Starmer when in opposition, is one of his first actions once in power.

Good post, Dickens 👏

I don't know why Labour made this decision and made it so soon after taking office. I’m not happy with it along with most people. But I voted for Labour because I believe that they want to make this country a better place for everyone and until it proves to be not the case I will assume that they have other plans that will improve our lives in other ways. I’m not assuming that it will happen overnight which is why I’m so angry about things like eg petitions to get Keir Starmer removed from office. And another reason why I want the opposition to get their act together and hopefully choose a good leader (albeit not feeling inspired by the current candidates) because we need a strong opposition.