Mike Lynch yacht sinking and business partner mown down out running.

That yacht looked strange, I only have a Physics A Level but the centre of gravity looks to me all wrong. Sadly, it looked like a giant pendulum not a seaworthy sailing vessel.
COG needs to be lower down.
My father sailed a Black Water Sloop with a 6 ft lead keel. The sea acts in a different way to being on land.

RosesandLilac

I find it strange that there were four days of warnings about storms yet it seems that no preventative measures were taken. Or perhaps there was an assumption that all would be well….
Very sad.

Giovanni Costantino who is the CEO of the company who built the stricken yacht is blaming human error as even with the severe storm, his vessel would not sink. Now where have I heard that before?

My DH seems to think that the tender was housed in a different type of hatch and that the hatch had not been closed. Coupled with portholes being left open, it would not take very long for the yacht to be flooded … but in any event human negligence may have played a part. Doubtless more information will filter through.

This set of events is truly tragic. I don't think though, that it is anything other than an appalling set of dreadful circumstances. All because something is a trillion to one chance, it doesn't mean it can't happen; someone does win the lottery, and as some will remember only too well, an expert medical witness was responsible for the conviction and imprisonment of that poor woman who lost 3 babies to cot death. He said that the odds were so massive that it had to be deliberate. The truth was otherwise of course.

DH has pointed out that other yachts in the vicinity did not sink. So the mast and CV keel should have been lowered.

CV is typo

My mother was friends with 2 brothers in her youth. One of the brothers died going over the handlebars of his bike on his way to school and on the very same date the following year the other brother died in exactly the same way, also cycling to school.

^This is a case of the 1: 10 million chance. Nothing remotely suspect about it what so ever.
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I may agree with the first part. Cant agree that there is nothing to be suspect about it all though.

With what is going on in the world at present I am wondering at all this fuss because 6 very rich people die on a luxury yacht in a seastorm. At least most of the crew got away.

ronib

DH has pointed out that other yachts in the vicinity did not sink. So the mast and CV keel should have been lowered.

I have seen it theorised that the keel had been raised. Had it been in place it should have acted as a counterweight to the mast. Why it should have been raised when there was a considerable depth of water below the yacht is a puzzle.

But perhaps nothing could have saved it from the waterspout..

As I understand it, it was mostly crew who were saved because they were on deck preparing for the storm.

I don't believe the conspiracy theory. Just awful coincidence.

From all I’ve read on reliable news sources (not the likes of TikToK) it’s likely that the hatches on the yacht, which should have been closed, were left open for the sake of cool air for sleeping when it had been very hot, in which case the inrush of water would have made it sink like a stone - which is evidently what happened, according to a witness.

biglouis

With what is going on in the world at present I am wondering at all this fuss because 6 very rich people die on a luxury yacht in a seastorm. At least most of the crew got away.

Biglouis if the crew had been doing their job properly, the passengers would have got away too. I think a lot of people will be sad that an 18 year old girl lost her life too. Even though much else is happening, it is still very sad.

I would say big Louis because I dont judge the value of human life on how much people earn. That way I maintain some level of morality.

Seven people died, big louis, and that is a tragedy, whoever they were and why.

eazybee

Seven people died, big louis, and that is a tragedy, whoever they were and why.

This ^

The wealth of the people who died does not lessen the tragedy BigLouis, they are all someone's Father, daughter, husband, wife or otherwise.

My son in law spent several years working at an airfield that dealt with a lot of servicing and repairs of private planes. He always said that most accidents and near misses occurred because, having invested in their expensive status symbol, people didn't want to spend money on the upkeep. It makes you wonder how well maintained this yacht was. I also wonder why the crew hadn't made more effort to rouse the passengers. If they were preparing for the bad weather perhaps they should have moved the passengers to a place they could easily be evacuated from. It sounds like complacency.
The death of the daughter is very sad. She seems to have been a very clever girl with a great future.

No matter who it is we can always have human sympathy for them, can't we.

I think that what BigLoius is querying is does the wealth of the people who died justify the enormous amount of media coverage it is getting.

It is a terrible tragedy, but had it been a dozen people crossing the channel in a rubber dinghy would their deaths have been any less tragic?

It's a slow news week. This crops up as a rare happening. Enormous media coverage is inevitable.

Quick question to GN's. The yacht is worth £30 million. I assume it was insured but will there be a pay out if it is proved that human error was responsible for the tragic accident?

I think that what BigLoius is querying is does the wealth of the people who died justify the enormous amount of media coverage it is getting.

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Other people die in maritime accidents but we dont get this annoying level of media saturation. They have ceratinly got more coverage than the people who were knifed in Nottingham. But then other people may not be millionaires or the president of a major bank.

Sarnia

Quick question to GN's. The yacht is worth £30 million. I assume it was insured but will there be a pay out if it is proved that human error was responsible for the tragic accident?

It spreads further than human error. The yacht was managed by Camper Nicholson, the most globally respected yacht management company. They would have hired the crew, are they responsible?
I know 2 ( now retired ) professional yacht skippers.1 was hired by Camper Nicholson. They are very thorough.
CN are also responsible for the maintenance of the yacht. In fact, everything.

One reason for the extensive coverage was the fact that six people were missing; the chef drowned as the boat sank and was retrieved immediately but it took several days to discover the bodies of the missing with the dreadful possibility they were alive but trapped in air bubbles. Another reason was the prominence of these people; all wealthy but by through their own work; charitable with their money and time and definitely not the idle rich. Finally the death of an outstandingly intelligent young girl on the brink of adulthood and the prospect of a glittering future, untimely snatched away.
The extraordinary series of coincidences have also given rise to inevitable conspiracy theories. To me this is the equivalent of a Greek tragedy unfolding in front of us; hubris, nemesis or simply terrible misfortune? But no less a tragedy because the people concerned were wealthy.

Sarnia

RosesandLilac

I find it strange that there were four days of warnings about storms yet it seems that no preventative measures were taken. Or perhaps there was an assumption that all would be well….
Very sad.

Giovanni Costantino who is the CEO of the company who built the stricken yacht is blaming human error as even with the severe storm, his vessel would not sink. Now where have I heard that before?

Well, maybe it wouldn’t have - if the hatches had been closed, as they should have been.