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Angela Rayner dancing whilst on holiday in Ibiza

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Babs03 Sun 01-Sept-24 16:02:54

Have to say this sounds like a non news story but it seems some are getting hot under the collar about it. Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a young woman like Angela enjoying a holiday in Ibiza and dancing in a nightclub. She wasn't doing anything wrong.
I like the fact that Angela is from a working class background in the North, the same as me, it makes her far more in touch with those who feel that politicians recently are on another planet. She also has fire in her belly and God forbid a love of life. Reminds me of a young Barbara Castle.
Keep on dancing Ang, but keep your smartest moves for those opposite you in the HoC.

ronib Sat 07-Sept-24 23:16:19

The Spectator wrote a column saying that up until April this year, Starmer didn’t wear glasses but Lord Alli bought him multiple pairs to change Starmer’s image. Apparently Starmer now looks wise, avuncular and prime ministerial. Oh dear……

BevSec Sat 07-Sept-24 23:18:39

Oh dear indeed!

Casdon Sat 07-Sept-24 23:27:27

The Spectator’s research is shaky then.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/keir-starmers-five-missions-labour-govern

Siope Sat 07-Sept-24 23:31:49

ronib

The Spectator wrote a column saying that up until April this year, Starmer didn’t wear glasses but Lord Alli bought him multiple pairs to change Starmer’s image. Apparently Starmer now looks wise, avuncular and prime ministerial. Oh dear……

Ye gods. It’s (again) not true. Here is Starmer, wearing glasses, in 2021.

news.sky.com/story/amp/beergate-memo-calls-into-question-starmers-claim-that-he-did-not-break-lockdown-rules-12607392

OldFrill Sun 08-Sept-24 00:54:27

ronib

The Spectator wrote a column saying that up until April this year, Starmer didn’t wear glasses but Lord Alli bought him multiple pairs to change Starmer’s image. Apparently Starmer now looks wise, avuncular and prime ministerial. Oh dear……

The Spectator said
"Until about April this year, Sir Keir did not wear spectacles on public occasions."

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 06:23:45

Yes - OldFrill

Iam64 Sun 08-Sept-24 08:30:20

Talk about rummaging ariund to find something to criticise Starmer for 😂

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 08:49:20

Siope

ronib

The Spectator wrote a column saying that up until April this year, Starmer didn’t wear glasses but Lord Alli bought him multiple pairs to change Starmer’s image. Apparently Starmer now looks wise, avuncular and prime ministerial. Oh dear……

Ye gods. It’s (again) not true. Here is Starmer, wearing glasses, in 2021.

news.sky.com/story/amp/beergate-memo-calls-into-question-starmers-claim-that-he-did-not-break-lockdown-rules-12607392

They're just not very statesmanlike though!!
🤓

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 08:49:53

Iam64 didn’t need much rummaging….

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 08:53:08

Come to think of it, there’s nothing that Starmer can do to pretend to be statesman like. Every time he opens his mouth, it gets worse. Such a pity that Lord Alli wasted his money. Should have offered basic communication skills course instead.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 08:58:31

ronib he looks a darn sight more statesmanlike than one of his predecessors!
(I don't mean Rishi or even Liz)

eggplant Sun 08-Sept-24 09:04:13

ronib

Come to think of it, there’s nothing that Starmer can do to pretend to be statesman like. Every time he opens his mouth, it gets worse. Such a pity that Lord Alli wasted his money. Should have offered basic communication skills course instead.

Oh , come off it! KS not the most inspirational of speakers but he can string words together, unlike the buffoon.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 09:07:04

eggplant

ronib

Come to think of it, there’s nothing that Starmer can do to pretend to be statesman like. Every time he opens his mouth, it gets worse. Such a pity that Lord Alli wasted his money. Should have offered basic communication skills course instead.

Oh , come off it! KS not the most inspirational of speakers but he can string words together, unlike the buffoon.

As a barrister he must have been able to string a few words together to make a coherent sentence. 🙂
Perhaps not in Ancient Greek or Latin but in intelligible English.

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 09:07:50

Sorry to disagree - I can’t bring myself to watch or hear Starmer’s interview this morning. This is exactly the same technique Putin is using to alienate his own people in Russia.

RosiesMaw2 Sun 08-Sept-24 09:37:24

ronib

The Spectator wrote a column saying that up until April this year, Starmer didn’t wear glasses but Lord Alli bought him multiple pairs to change Starmer’s image. Apparently Starmer now looks wise, avuncular and prime ministerial. Oh dear……

False news of course, the Spectator should know better but it, and you, seem to be scraping the bottom of the proverbial

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 09:44:59

Proof RosiesMaw2? Which bit is false? Starmer wore spectacles for work only until April is the inaccurate bit. The rest is true.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 09:45:20

ronib

Sorry to disagree - I can’t bring myself to watch or hear Starmer’s interview this morning. This is exactly the same technique Putin is using to alienate his own people in Russia.

🤔

Why would Putin wish to alienate the Russian people?

Rekarie Sun 08-Sept-24 09:46:22

ronib

Sorry to disagree - I can’t bring myself to watch or hear Starmer’s interview this morning. This is exactly the same technique Putin is using to alienate his own people in Russia.

I had to turn him off as well. Not remotely captivating, interesting or inspiring. Loving the way he's said the NHS will use the private health sector. Does he not remember Tony Blair doing this? And the NHS has been using private facilities for over 30 years.

Greyisnotmycolour Sun 08-Sept-24 09:48:37

Pork markets and Peppa Pig. Hiding in a fridge and Penny Mordaunt stating that the Prime Minister wasn't hiding under a desk. Statement like ? What short memories some have.

Oreo Sun 08-Sept-24 09:50:28

I don’t care if he needs glasses for everyday or not, but it’s what he does that matters.
On the whole this morning his interview with Laura Kuensberg went well, tho I was pleased to see that she mentioned when this 22billion black hole was trotted out yet again by him, that actually 9 billion of this was created by paying some public servants huge pay rises and it was a political choice to deprive pensioners like my own Mum of the WFA.
It wasn’t an inspiring interview but it was ok.Soon tho he is going to have to offer us more than gloom and doom.

foxie48 Sun 08-Sept-24 10:20:45

What do people want truth or lies? Truth is, as a country we are rather broke, our public services are pretty awful and our tax bill is pretty high. One of the reasons we are a bit broke is that the govt is having to pay more for the borrowing, which is sky high at 99.4% of GDP partly due to the Lettuce! The US can have a debt that big because they have the dollar we can't so we have to do something to bring it down and redirect govt spending to where it is needed most to improve services for everyone and the lives of the most disadvantaged. If people understand that perhaps they don't see gloom and doom, they see responsible economic measures not a party trying to buy votes to stay in power. If people want quick results just think back to Truss and the damage she did in 49 days, I'd rather have a more measured response to the country's problems.

eazybee Sun 08-Sept-24 10:34:28

I would rather have people running the country who are able to offer positive solutions to the problems and carefully worked out strategies on how they will achieve them than the eternal bad-mouthing of their predecessors.
Kier Starmer really is a disastrous communicator, reading- glasses or no. (I still don't understand why Lord Alli found it necessary to advance him quite quite such a large sum of money to refresh his wardrobe, or is that all Tory lies as well?)

eggplant Sun 08-Sept-24 10:41:26

Soon tho he is going to have to offer us more than gloom and doom

Yes, absolutely. Somehope would be nice.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 10:41:57

Rekarie

ronib

Sorry to disagree - I can’t bring myself to watch or hear Starmer’s interview this morning. This is exactly the same technique Putin is using to alienate his own people in Russia.

I had to turn him off as well. Not remotely captivating, interesting or inspiring. Loving the way he's said the NHS will use the private health sector. Does he not remember Tony Blair doing this? And the NHS has been using private facilities for over 30 years.

I asked DH what he thought as I didn't watch the interview.
He said he fell asleep (he did have a disturbed night).

foxie48 Sun 08-Sept-24 10:59:41

eggplant

*Soon tho he is going to have to offer us more than gloom and doom*

Yes, absolutely. Somehope would be nice.

We're two months into a possible 5 year term. Now is the time for any govt to get the tough stuff out and tell it how it is. The Conservatives did exactly the same.