Another long wait for justice

Good point they (she) is the government, they are in power and in authority of 422 MP’s
The govt rightly acted quickly on the riots same should happen for Grenfell.

i understood it was a second hand fridge that started it, it should be mandatory to have such puchases PAT tested

What would you count as 'justice'? Picking a couple of scapegoats to lose their job, maybe go to prison?

'Justice' should have started 7 years ago, straight after the fire. Fire Service policies should have been examined and changed. Similar cladding should have been identified and replaced. And, to a certain extent, this HAS happened. Not completely of course, and not quickly enough, it will always be possible to criticise.

Lahlah65

We do have a different system to other countries. In France they have ‘examining justices’ who direct the process of collecting evidence as well as making decisions. I don’t know if it is quicker though. In Finland, you cannot directly sue a doctor for negligence - the state has a system for providing compensation for medical negligence and then addresses issues of incompetence etc. Others might know more than me about how these systems work and whether they produce quicker results. It has taken many years and successive governments to reach this position - there are unlikely to be quick fixes. We are want to pay less tax and for things to be cheaper, without always thinking about the consequences.

Just look at the Trump trials in the US…convicted guilty in 3 …after years and years of faffing…yet not one penalty has he suffered yet. The sentencing of one has been postponed until after the election ( PRAY he doesn’t get in, he’s a dangerous megalomaniac) and the others seem to be on permanent appeal …. With the final arbitration the Supreme Court of whom 6 are so biased in his favour, they are bending the law to accommodate him! And if he wins he can wipe almost all trials against him anyway! Which is why he is desperate to win! There is Corruption everywhere!
Here the PO and Grenfell cases are horrendous with lifelong consequences for those still suffering, and lives lost…but the law obfuscates and delays and delays. The LAW needs a complete overhaul everywhere and set speedy time limits for dealing with such matters!

"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine" legally, you cannot start any form of legal proceedings until the report has been produced. Then, if you are going for Corporate Manslaughter, you need your ducks in a very very very organised row or it will fail. I know what was involved in the first successful prosecution of Corporate Manslaughter which was the Tebay incident on the railway where track workers were killed and the level of forensic detail required to get a conviction was unreal. Nothing happens quickly, let's just hope it happens at all!

Grantanow

Angela Rayner is reported as being ' unhappy' with the rate of progress in removing unsafe cladding from buildings but what is she actually DOING about it?

I don’t think it’s been easy for any politician to get the companies who own blocks of flats to act quickly to get unsafe cladding off and redo it.It must be a complicated battle.

I agree PuffernutterUK sometimes it just does take ages to get things just right for a prosecution to go ahead.In this case there are several factors that combined to the sad deaths.

The way they carried on with awarding Medals to the local Fire Brigade's Top Brass in the wake of this Tragedy - said it ALL for me .

I would rather it took time than that the wrong people were prosecuted, innocent people convicted and the right prosecutions fail for inadequate evidence.