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Will Huw Edwards get a custodial sentence?

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Sago Mon 16-Sept-24 08:28:18

Today is the day Huw Edwards will learn his fate.

It’s an interesting one, in our local newspaper men have received fines and community orders for similar offences.

I wonder if they will make an example of Huw, I cannot imagine he would have an easy time in prison and although people would argue he didn’t physically abuse any children the distribution of these images in itself is abuse.

I really couldn’t call this one.

Iam64 Tue 17-Sept-24 19:58:44

Simply and accurately put MissA

Anniebach Tue 17-Sept-24 20:05:13

Perhaps lying to self is easier

MissAdventure Tue 17-Sept-24 20:08:28

I'm sure it is, particularly in light of Edward's standing in life.

Who would want to face the fact that they are the sort of person that everyone despises, even the hardest criminals?

Rosie51 Tue 17-Sept-24 20:17:31

GG13 you can't be jailed for failing to buy a TV licence, but you can be jailed for failing to pay the fine imposed when guilty of the offence.

Doodledog Huw Edwards' offences passed the threshold to serve a prison sentence, which means community service and/or a fine were not appropriate punishment. The magistrate chose to suspend the sentence, he didn't have to. He also declined to place an order whereby any devices Edwards used could be examined at any time to check he wasn't accessing similar material. The magistrate accepted the defence's assessment that Edwards was low risk for repeat offending, rather than the probation service's assessment he was medium risk.

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 20:34:16

This is the full magistrates statement and assessment as to the sentence awarded.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/EDWARDS-SENTENCE-REMARKS-FINAL.pdf

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Sept-24 20:50:48

Thank you for clarification Rosie51

Anniebach Tue 17-Sept-24 21:06:08

Thank you Wyllow.

Galaxy Tue 17-Sept-24 21:07:54

Its fascinating that one of the first reactions to the initial story about Hugh Edwards was condemnation of The Sun who broke the story.
Owen Jones was vocal in his criticism of the 'disgusting rag' A handy reminder that whatever opinion Owen holds you know you will be right if you take the opposite one.

cc Tue 17-Sept-24 21:39:10

Rosie51

Grandma70s

That should read I DON’T think the sentence is lenient.

You actually think a 6 months suspended sentence for being part of the reason children are photographed, and in this case videoed, being sexually abused is not lenient, but just and appropriate? These images so enjoyed by Huw Edwards and others like him are in existence for ever. Those children don't ever get to escape from the harm perpetuated on them by perverts, he gets 7 years on the sex offenders register. Total travesty of justice!

I heard a judge today say that he could see why the sentence had been given and that it was in line with the lower end of guidelines, but he was surprised.
He made the point that as part of his job he had needed to view photos and videos and seen the same children in them at different ages, they were not normally a one off but could go on for years unless the perpetrators were caught.
So Huw Edwards gets six months suspended, whilst the children get many years of pain and unhappiness and their childhood is stolen. The children have, in effect, to serve a life sentence as the memories of this horror never go away.

Anniebach Tue 17-Sept-24 21:40:42

Thinking the opposite of Owen Jones is right !

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 21:46:48

Humility isn't his strongest suit.

Doodledog Tue 17-Sept-24 21:49:41

Rosie51

GG13 you can't be jailed for failing to buy a TV licence, but you can be jailed for failing to pay the fine imposed when guilty of the offence.

Doodledog Huw Edwards' offences passed the threshold to serve a prison sentence, which means community service and/or a fine were not appropriate punishment. The magistrate chose to suspend the sentence, he didn't have to. He also declined to place an order whereby any devices Edwards used could be examined at any time to check he wasn't accessing similar material. The magistrate accepted the defence's assessment that Edwards was low risk for repeat offending, rather than the probation service's assessment he was medium risk.

Ah, right. I was under the impression that because the man who produced the images wasn't jailed then HE couldn't be either. If I've got that wrong, then he definitely should have been jailed - as I said, IMO he should have been anyway.

Whilst I take the point that comparisons are inevitable, and that they say something about what society values, I don't think that a comparison between riot and incitement to riot and child pornography is valid at a time of civil unrest - the context has to be taken into account.

Anniebach Tue 17-Sept-24 21:49:56

Read his opinion on the sentence?

Mt61 Tue 17-Sept-24 21:52:27

Redhead56

A slap on the wrist and a telling off and his wife will be at his side.

I think that too

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 21:55:14

They've split up.

Mt61 Tue 17-Sept-24 21:56:42

He probably won’t even get 22 months, didn’t someone get that length of sentence for a FB post- think what he’s done is far, far worse. I hope he is sent to prison

Wyllow3 Tue 17-Sept-24 22:08:07

M61, he's had his sentence, been discussed from the bottom of page 1.

Mt61 Tue 17-Sept-24 22:31:39

Wyllow3

M61, he's had his sentence, been discussed from the bottom of page 1.

Yes just seen that- those poor children!

Mt61 Tue 17-Sept-24 22:48:20

eazybee

^I think his sentence is probably about right. I don’t believe in revenge punishments.^
Yes, I have grandchildren. I don’t think I would feel any different. The damage has been done and we will not undo it by a custodial sentence.
A custodial sentence may not undo the damage done, but it will prevent future abuse from those, who like Edwards, are scared of being caught but don't have access to millions to pay for 'his mental health issues' defence and thus avoid gaol.

You are talking rubbish

biglouis Tue 17-Sept-24 23:00:01

You can be sent to prison for failing to pay council tax,

Something wrong there.

Allira Tue 17-Sept-24 23:24:01

Fraud is wrong, we know.
However, which is worse - fraudently obtaining money from loan companies because you are panicking as a result of your business failing due to the economic climate or knowingly being complicit in the sexual abuse and rape of small children?

The first, a man of previously impeccable character, received 3 years in prison.

The second, a man who hid his illegal sexual proclivities from the world and accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money gets a suspended sentence.

eazybee Wed 18-Sept-24 06:43:07

Mt61, I am not sure in what way I am talking rubbish?

Sarnia Wed 18-Sept-24 08:27:14

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Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:17:14

eazybee

I knew a man in his thirties who was jailed for possessing indecent images of children. The repercussions following the sentence were immense; he lost his home, his job and his marriage; social services insisted his wife divorce him otherwise they would take their children into care. The punishment was just although his dysfunctional childhood and upbringing could have been taken into consideration. I hope Huw Edwards receives similar and the plea of mental health issues is not used as mitigation.

Good the bloke deserved all he got- you sound like a complete do- gooder 😩

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:20:19

HeavenLeigh

So Edwards bleating he has low self esteem my heart bleeds NOT! He like thousands of others will come up with any old bull. Does he seriously think we would fall for that old flannel. The only ones I feel for are the poor vunerable children that have had their lives ruined by these sickos. And have horrific memories which can’t be erased for the rest of their lives.

& his wife & kids!