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Will Huw Edwards get a custodial sentence?

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Sago Mon 16-Sept-24 08:28:18

Today is the day Huw Edwards will learn his fate.

It’s an interesting one, in our local newspaper men have received fines and community orders for similar offences.

I wonder if they will make an example of Huw, I cannot imagine he would have an easy time in prison and although people would argue he didn’t physically abuse any children the distribution of these images in itself is abuse.

I really couldn’t call this one.

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-24 09:23:25

And his mother

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 09:24:47

I think any offence against children should mean a mandatory prison sentence, because I'm mean spirited enough to think the perpetrator should know the fear of being despised, in a hostile environment, even if just for months.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:30:02

MissAdventure

I think any offence against children should mean a mandatory prison sentence, because I'm mean spirited enough to think the perpetrator should know the fear of being despised, in a hostile environment, even if just for months.

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Casdon Wed 18-Sept-24 09:37:50

Anniebach

And his mother

Yes Anniebach this sort of crime must be a terrible burden for a mother.

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 09:40:27

It must be absolutely terrible for the family.

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:41:13

Bea65

He’s a dirty old man who has shamed the ROYALS, the BBC and his FAMILY… AND what of the children he viewed - this is not justice am DISGUSTED 🤢

No the BBC are well known for covering up for paedos- look how they covered up for Jimmy Saville & others- that’s is why we won’t be buying anymore tv licenses

Allira Wed 18-Sept-24 09:52:42

MissAdventure

I think any offence against children should mean a mandatory prison sentence, because I'm mean spirited enough to think the perpetrator should know the fear of being despised, in a hostile environment, even if just for months.

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However, the problem with prison is that these criminals all get sent to the same prisons where they might feed on each others' perversions.
The aim at HMP Stafford is rehabilitation but can someone like that ever be rehabilitated?
It is not unknown for Parole Boards to be hoodwinked by clever and manipulative criminals.

[[https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/04/27/inside-the-sex-offenders-only-jail-which-houses-rolf-harris-hmp-stafford/

As for his mother, shame yes, but not as bad as for the mothers of those abused children.

Allira Wed 18-Sept-24 09:53:11

www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2019/04/27/inside-the-sex-offenders-only-jail-which-houses-rolf-harris-hmp-stafford/

nanaK54 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:57:05

MissAdventure

I think any offence against children should mean a mandatory prison sentence, because I'm mean spirited enough to think the perpetrator should know the fear of being despised, in a hostile environment, even if just for months.

Yes, yes and yes.
Not 'mean spirited' at all.
Those poor, poor children and the now adults that are 'survivors' of such horrific abuse, whatever message is sent to them if prison sentences are not given.
Note to self: why I am still commenting on this thread...

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 10:02:36

No, I don't believe some people are able to be rehabilitated.

The best that can be done is to prevent them from ever having access to children, the Internet, and whatever other means they use.

That would mean strict conditions put on them, and for those to be adhered to. not only by the person, but the agencies involved in monitoring them.

My upstairs neighbour was left with a tag, which her family member removed, before they took off and went miles away to live.

It took about six months for her to get anyone to come and pick it up!!

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:39:07

GrannyGravy13

Am I correct in that if you do not pay your TV License you can be jailed?

Those who view and pay for paedophilic pictures and/or videos are given what basically amounts to a slap on the wrist.

It doesn’t sit right with me.

No you can’t be jailed for having no tv licence but you can be fined for watching or recording live tv- if caught, if you don’t pay the fine, then you can be jailed

Sago Wed 18-Sept-24 10:42:07

Huw Edwards is an arrogant individual and a very lucky man to be sleeping in his own bed.

One aspect of this that makes me really angry is how he blames his mental illness on his offending.
There are many thousands of mentally ill people who do not break the law, it just adds to the stigma of mental illness.

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-24 10:47:36

Like physical illness, many different mental illnesses

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:49:09

Easybee try telling that to my nephew who was molested by a dirty old bastard, aged 7 & is now an alcoholic & drug addict, with anger issues, his mother, (my sister) couldn’t live with herself when she found out & committed suicide- so 6 months suspended doesn’t wash with me & it won’t deter others, only encourage them as they know he’s got away it. Had I have known about about my nephews abuse, I would be doing time now.

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:59:01

Sago

Huw Edwards is an arrogant individual and a very lucky man to be sleeping in his own bed.

One aspect of this that makes me really angry is how he blames his mental illness on his offending.
There are many thousands of mentally ill people who do not break the law, it just adds to the stigma of mental illness.

Well said. He had the money to get the best therapy going for his “mental illness” as he puts it- no he was arrogant, & thought he would never get caught, but decides to hide behind the MH card.

Dinahmo Wed 18-Sept-24 11:36:59

Doodledog

Dinahmo

To add to RosiesMaw2 list above - what about the sentences handed down to the members of just Stop Oil recently.? The co-founder got 5 years and the others 4 years prison sentences. I call those sentences outrageous and appalling.

Can I just ask what the sentences for JSO protesters have to do with HE's sentence? Also, how would it make HE's sentence any more acceptable if they had got a fine instead of a custodial sentence?

What would you feel if you were driving a loved one to hospital and they died as a result of a road closure? Can it be fair to differentiate between acts that cause death like that, and the same acts that just turn out differently by luck?

Nothing except that the sentences are inequitable.

Roads can be closed for a variety of reasons, not JSO.

I remember several years ago now, when the M25 was clogged but cars were still being directed onto it because the authorities did not want the nearby towns and villages etc to be clogged up also. A friend was caught up in that - several hours before the traffic was cleared - and she said that there were helicopters circling in case anyone was in dire need of being taken to hospital. Doubtless there were many seriously people stuck in cars on the motorway, maybe some of whom died. Does anyone blame the cause of the jams on whoever caused them? Obviously one reason was the volume of traffic. All those people coming back from a bank holiday weekend perhaps?

lemsip Wed 18-Sept-24 11:40:47

he announced the death of our Queen Elizabeth and presided over the funeral, while hiding his dirty little secret that the BBC new about!. That is so shocking.

MissInterpreted Wed 18-Sept-24 11:59:02

I know this is from the Daily Mail, but it does show just how leniently similar cases have been treated by the courts:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13863659/online-paedophiles-walked-free.html
And yes, I know there are sentencing guidelines etc, but it's high time these were changed. They need to get some of us GNetters handing down the sentences!

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 12:21:48

I wonder if we could all agree on an appropriate sentence?

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-24 12:47:14

Quote lemsip Wed 18-Sep-24 11:40:47
he announced the death of our Queen Elizabeth and presided over the funeral, while hiding his dirty little secret that the BBC new about!. That is so shocking.

He did not preside over the Queens funeral

Mollygo Wed 18-Sept-24 12:47:25

MissAdventure

I wonder if we could all agree on an appropriate sentence?

MissInterpreted
And yes, I know there are sentencing guidelines etc, but it's high time these were changed. They need to get some of us GNetters handing down the sentences!

I’ve already said I agree about sentencing guidelines needing changes for quite a few crimes, but MissAdventure raises a very good question above.

Any offers?

petra Wed 18-Sept-24 12:54:02

MissAdventure

I wonder if we could all agree on an appropriate sentence?

Life in a Russian Gulag 😡

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 13:12:29

Would we class all involved as equally criminal?
Those who watch, those who film, and all the others involved in the process?

A minimum of five years, maybe, for the "least bad", if there is any distinction?

Ten years, perhaps?

petra Wed 18-Sept-24 13:14:53

Nope, still voting for All of those involved to be sent to Siberia.

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-24 13:14:54

Have to build more prisons first