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Will Huw Edwards get a custodial sentence?

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Sago Mon 16-Sept-24 08:28:18

Today is the day Huw Edwards will learn his fate.

It’s an interesting one, in our local newspaper men have received fines and community orders for similar offences.

I wonder if they will make an example of Huw, I cannot imagine he would have an easy time in prison and although people would argue he didn’t physically abuse any children the distribution of these images in itself is abuse.

I really couldn’t call this one.

Casdon Wed 18-Sept-24 13:17:59

How many people would you estimate are involved at any level - is it 1 in 10,000, 1 in 1000, 1 in 100? I’ve got no feel for the numbers.

Iam64 Wed 18-Sept-24 13:35:06

I wonder if the nspcc or police protection units have an estimate
I know it’s much higher than people who haven’t worked in this grim field would suspect.

MissAdventure Wed 18-Sept-24 13:38:34

Casdon

How many people would you estimate are involved at any level - is it 1 in 10,000, 1 in 1000, 1 in 100? I’ve got no feel for the numbers.

I'd think it would be way, way more than that.
Based on nothing other than an interest in crime.
I suspect even the police would have hard job estimating.

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Sept-24 13:57:30

Images on the web - cross international boundaries. There are dedicated organisations across international boundaries taking them down.
Actual % people deliberately accessing them - could find no figures. Also allusions to AI generated images on the increase.

Mt61 Wed 18-Sept-24 15:02:34

MissAdventure

Would we class all involved as equally criminal?
Those who watch, those who film, and all the others involved in the process?

A minimum of five years, maybe, for the "least bad", if there is any distinction?

Ten years, perhaps?

They are all as bad as each other

eazybee Wed 18-Sept-24 15:30:09

eazybee
I knew a man in his thirties who was jailed for possessing indecent images of children. The repercussions following the sentence were immense; he lost his home, his job and his marriage; social services insisted his wife divorce him otherwise they would take their children into care. The punishment was just; although his dysfunctional childhood and upbringing could have been taken into consideration. I hope Huw Edwards receives similar and the plea of mental health issues is not used as mitigation.
Good the bloke deserved all he got.
I am not excusing him (the bloke); he received a custodial sentence and he has ruined his life; is that not sufficient?
you sound like a complete do- gooder 😩
To be charitable. I think you misread my post.

eazybee Wed 18-Sept-24 15:31:03

For the attention of Mt61.

Anniebach Wed 18-Sept-24 16:16:39

The young man whose mother has given/sold another story to
the Sun has given\sold his story , to the Mirror, he has much sympathy with Huw Edwards family

lemsip Thu 19-Sept-24 08:50:44

Anniebach

Quote lemsip Wed 18-Sep-24 11:40:47
he announced the death of our Queen Elizabeth and presided over the funeral, while hiding his dirty little secret that the BBC new about!. That is so shocking.

He did not preside over the Queens funeral

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The BBC's coverage of Queen Elizabeth II's funeral was presented by a number of people, including:
Kirsty Young: Presenter
HUW EDWARDS Covered events from LONDON
Fergal Keane: Covered events from London
David Dimbleby: Covered events in Windsor
Sophie Raworth: Reporter and covered events at Parliament Square

Anniebach Thu 19-Sept-24 09:25:29

Definition of presiding - to be in charge or control.

You quote BBC in your second post

MissInterpreted Thu 19-Sept-24 11:05:08

I understood what you meant, Anniebach. To me, someone presiding over a funeral would be the person actually conducting the funeral service, not someone presenting coverage of that funeral on tv.

Anniebach Thu 19-Sept-24 11:25:46

Yes, thank you MisInterpreted , and there are other channels too,

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Sept-24 12:21:02

👍

Anniebach Thu 19-Sept-24 12:40:21

Has there been a letter re the man who passed the images to
HE ?

Sago Thu 19-Sept-24 12:41:21

We probably need to get the Israeli secret service on the job!
Exploding devices the moment these sites are accessed.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Sept-24 12:44:35

Sago

We probably need to get the Israeli secret service on the job!
Exploding devices the moment these sites are accessed.

Bizarre as it sounds 👍

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Sept-24 12:44:56

Anniebach

Has there been a letter re the man who passed the images to
HE ?

I do hope so, will have a look 👍

Iam64 Thu 19-Sept-24 19:51:10

My view is there needs to be a review of sentencing guidelines for sexual abuse of children
Starmer rightly identified violence against women and girls as a national emergency. Surely child sexual abuse of children (including boys) should be part of whatever reviews
are proposed

Allira Thu 19-Sept-24 19:52:01

I agree, Iam64

As a matter of urgency.

Galaxy Thu 19-Sept-24 21:41:45

The only way to have any influence on VAWG (and yes I agree that includes all children) is to increase sentences and improve prosecution rates. The rest of it - misogyny as a hate crime, etc etc is absolutely pointless.

Iam64 Fri 20-Sept-24 06:54:54

One obvious difficulty is the need for independent evidence in support of prosecutions. It’s something Judges are compelled to advise the jury of, reminding them it’s the word of this child (or woman) against the accused. We still live in a society where many find it difficult to believe the respectable man in the dock could possibly have done what he’s accused of. Prosecutions are rare. Successful prosecutions? I’ll ask Google but i can think of too many children who weren’t believed

Doodledog Sat 21-Sept-24 11:04:32

Look at the Al Fayed case. People are unwilling to believe women over men. It’s as simple as that, really.

fancythat Sat 21-Sept-24 12:44:31

Or is it the age old problem of, one person's word against another.
No witnesses.
A case cannot be made and brought before the courts.

fancythat Sat 21-Sept-24 12:47:37

Galaxy

Its fascinating that one of the first reactions to the initial story about Hugh Edwards was condemnation of The Sun who broke the story.
Owen Jones was vocal in his criticism of the 'disgusting rag' A handy reminder that whatever opinion Owen holds you know you will be right if you take the opposite one.

I so so wish people, of the "Daily Mail? Dont believe a thing of what that paper says" ilk, were not quite so quick to dismiss everything. Regardless.

Iam64 Sat 21-Sept-24 13:43:51

Owen Jones is a loathsome individual