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Sausages……..how.

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Sago Tue 24-Sept-24 21:47:02

So this is the biggest gaff any PM has ever made.

Sausages…. hostages how?

Mamie Wed 25-Sept-24 08:07:17

It isn't about not having rehearsed or not knowing your script off by heart is it. It is about misspeaking one three syllable word for another with a very similar sound. I have also spoken many times at conferences and given how demanding it is of the human brain, I am not in the least surprised when people make mistakes.
Fortunately most people understand and are prepared to be kind.

Freya5 Wed 25-Sept-24 08:14:27

What an idiot. Out of the mould of David Lammy.
No respect for that dreadful situation. Any apology , anywhere!!

eggplant Wed 25-Sept-24 08:24:50

Freya5

What an idiot. Out of the mould of David Lammy.
No respect for that dreadful situation. Any apology , anywhere!!

There are idiots for sure.

Casdon Wed 25-Sept-24 08:28:28

eggplant

Freya5

What an idiot. Out of the mould of David Lammy.
No respect for that dreadful situation. Any apology , anywhere!!

There are idiots for sure.

I do always wonder if the critical people have walked the walk.

eggplant Wed 25-Sept-24 08:32:19

Just to be clear, I mean idiots are common. I don't think KS or DL fall into that category.

Doodledog Wed 25-Sept-24 08:35:41

eazybee

It wasn't a joke, it wasn't funny and it had absolutely no connection with the comment about Nazanin Zahari-Radcliffe.

Exactly. The N Z-R gaffe showed a lack of preparation for the situation and a tenuous grasp of the facts. It was totally different from a slip of the tongue, which is all the ‘sausages’ thing was.

As others have said, all public speakers trip over words at times. I certainly have. It’s not a sign of dementia or lack of comprehension. In fact, it happens in general conversation too. We have a George Formby grill, and my son enjoys stork and puffing sandwiches for exactly that reason.

lixy Wed 25-Sept-24 08:39:58

Mamie

It isn't about not having rehearsed or not knowing your script off by heart is it. It is about misspeaking one three syllable word for another with a very similar sound. I have also spoken many times at conferences and given how demanding it is of the human brain, I am not in the least surprised when people make mistakes.
Fortunately most people understand and are prepared to be kind.

Sadly the News and Politics forum on GN isn’t the place to come for kindness or understanding mamie.

It’s the kind of toe-curling gaffe that’ll keep him awake during the small hours. I have to be grateful that my own gaffes weren’t broadcast or recorded, but they still replay in my head on occasions. I’m with you Casdon on this.

escaped Wed 25-Sept-24 08:47:18

That's very Bob Dylan, Casdon, though I can't remember the exact words. Or the "walk in my shoes proverb"? I agree we should show some humility, but humour can enter into it too.
Malapropisms are rife in language, especially to do with foods and inverting the first sounds, like chish and fips, but that's nowhere near the same as hostages and sausages.

25Avalon Wed 25-Sept-24 08:55:13

Should have gone to Specsavers.

Sarnia Wed 25-Sept-24 09:02:26

25Avalon

Should have gone to Specsavers.

He doesn't need to. Nothing but the best designer free specs for him.

keepingquiet Wed 25-Sept-24 09:05:03

Funny how Johnson was loved for his 'gaffes' which he made on an almost daily basis. People said it made him 'one of us.'

Such double standards.

LizzieDrip Wed 25-Sept-24 09:10:03

I too have spoken in lecture theatres full of students so I know how daunting public speaking is. I too am a human being, like KS, and have tripped up over words - it happens.

I do wonder if any of those criticising with such unseemly glee have ever spoken in such a context? And, if they have, did they never make an error?

Of course, because it’s KS, the vultures are always ready to pounce. He will be mortified himself (as I have been when I’ve done it) but he’ll take it on the chin and move on, because he has far more important things to think about.

To those who can’t / won’t move on, enjoy your silly criticism … it says far more about you than it does about KS.

flappergirl Wed 25-Sept-24 09:10:24

For goodness sake everyone. It was a slip of the tongue. Does anyone honestly, hand on heart think that he said it deliberately to be disrespectful. Do you really believe that he thought to himself "I know, I'll call the hostages sausages just for kicks and giggles".

I can think of only a very few PM's, Presidents, news readers and public figures who haven't made similar errors. Theresa May notoriously called Brexit "breakfast" for example. I'm the opposite of a Tory, but I saw the humour and didn't try to tarnish her as a flaming idiot because of it.

As already stated, Boris Johnson's "gaffe" actually had very real and life threatening consequences. In that case it was pure laziness on his part to get the facts right, the very thing he was paid to do. It was not a slip of the tongue, it was an entire speech that could have condemned a woman to death.

Oreo Wed 25-Sept-24 09:20:09

While of course I feel sorry for the guy, he’ll be kicking himself, it was just the worst gaffe he could have made in his speech.It’s the sort of thing thatI gasped when I heard it but could still see the humour that most are seeing on here.We wouldn’t be human otherwise, I mean ‘the return of the sausages’ it makes you laugh, as I did after my first horrified gasp.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 25-Sept-24 09:28:11

MayBee70

Oh how some of you are revelling in this aren’t you. Pathetic imo.

Perhaps we should have used these 2 sentences when the Tories were being scrutinised 😁

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 09:30:01

FriedGreenTomatoes2

MayBee70

Oh how some of you are revelling in this aren’t you. Pathetic imo.

Perhaps we should have used these 2 sentences when the Tories were being scrutinised 😁

👏👏👏

Witzend Wed 25-Sept-24 09:32:23

OldFrill

The wurst kind

😂😂

Casdon Wed 25-Sept-24 09:36:45

Put it this way, the only newspaper headline was in the Star this morning, and it’s not on the front pages of any of the online news sites either that I can see.
Big news on Gransnet isn’t necessarily representative… It’s not his ‘they’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats’ moment, I think that could yet be the gaffe of the year, although there’s still time.

Mollygo Wed 25-Sept-24 09:44:08

keepingquiet

Funny how Johnson was loved for his 'gaffes' which he made on an almost daily basis. People said it made him 'one of us.'

Such double standards.

Was he? I didn’t love BJ with or without gaffes.
I accepted the sausages as a slip of the tongue.
I don’t think the situation in Gaza is the least bit funny.
But yes, I did laugh - because it sounded funny.
What’s even funnier is the desperate defence of Starmer on GN. Is he really so weak that he can’t take the criticism he handed out during his time in opposition?

Oreo Wed 25-Sept-24 09:45:23

Casdon

Put it this way, the only newspaper headline was in the Star this morning, and it’s not on the front pages of any of the online news sites either that I can see.
Big news on Gransnet isn’t necessarily representative… It’s not his ‘they’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats’ moment, I think that could yet be the gaffe of the year, although there’s still time.

And you must be able to see why the papers are holding fire on this particular gaffe?
It’s the sensitive nature of the awful ordeal of the Israeli hostages and what they and their families have had to endure!
It sure isn’t the papers being kind or understanding to KS.

Casdon Wed 25-Sept-24 09:46:44

That’s an interesting interpretation Oreo.

Grannybags Wed 25-Sept-24 09:47:00

If it wasn't for GN I wouldn't have known about it.

I listen to news and news related podcasts and nobody has mentioned it

Oreo Wed 25-Sept-24 09:47:54

Casdon

That’s an interesting interpretation Oreo.

It’s the only interpretation.
Otherwise the headliners would have had a field day.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 09:49:57

Oreo I think you are correct.

On the other hand the memes on the internet are hilarious, there are some very clever quick thinking people about.

Mollygo Wed 25-Sept-24 09:52:15

Today 09:47 Oreo

Today 09:47 Oreo

It’s the only interpretation.

Otherwise the headliners would have had a field day.
Agreed.