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Well Done Rosie Duffield

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Sparklefizz Sat 28-Sept-24 20:32:03

A woman of integrity.

MayBee70 Tue 01-Oct-24 18:21:25

eazybee

^ronib - it’s really an incontrovertible truth that our print media is skewed to the right. The Mail, the Sun, the Telegraph, the Times to name but a few. GB news is definitely right leaning..^
And the Guardian, the Observer, the Mirror, the Metro, The Independent?
Iam64,Why this obsession with labelling everything Right or Left wing? And pretending newspapers make up stories? The reputable ones don't need to, and the lies come from these peculiar online news 'distributors.' which are even infecting my rarely used mobile.
Readers are able to discriminate; there are so many news sources available, and the public has far more common sense than you give then credit for.

I seem to remember one of the tabloids having a front page spread saying ‘ The Queen supports Vote Leave’. Wasn’t that a made up story??

ronib Tue 01-Oct-24 18:25:11

The latest headline seems very real. Unfortunately. Difficult to make it up.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Oct-24 18:25:17

I remember the story saying the Queen supported remain because she wore a blue and yellow hat.

Forgotten which newspaper though.

Wyllow3 Tue 01-Oct-24 18:58:29

Checked. Express and Guardian came up first. Presume tongue in cheek, anyway.

Casdon Tue 01-Oct-24 19:05:09

GrannyGravy13

I remember the story saying the Queen supported remain because she wore a blue and yellow hat.

Forgotten which newspaper though.

That was all over the media, and given the design of the hat, and the fact that she wore it to the opening of parliament in 2017, I’d say they were spot on myself. Go Queen!

Rosie51 Tue 01-Oct-24 19:23:59

Oh yes I remember that outfit and don't believe it was pure coincidence! There was room for denial built in should it become necessary but I'm as sure as anything she was making a statement. She did have a wicked sense of humour.

MayBee70 Tue 01-Oct-24 19:27:48

Casdon

GrannyGravy13

I remember the story saying the Queen supported remain because she wore a blue and yellow hat.

Forgotten which newspaper though.

That was all over the media, and given the design of the hat, and the fact that she wore it to the opening of parliament in 2017, I’d say they were spot on myself. Go Queen!

As someone that couldn’t complain about the initial headline saying she supported leave it was pretty clever imo. The problem with the first headline was that it possibly affected the outcome of the referendum and was therefore imo dangerous. By the time she wore ‘ that hat’ the damage had already been done.

eazybee Tue 01-Oct-24 19:47:56

The Press doesn't need any help in making up stories; it's all happening here.

Casdon Tue 01-Oct-24 20:12:37

The world doesn’t listen to Gransnetters eazybee - and there’s a difference between speculation and lying.

Mollygo Tue 01-Oct-24 20:23:01

eazybee

The Press doesn't need any help in making up stories; it's all happening here.

The media-all media doesn’t need any help in making up stories and everyone, on all media is convinced that theirs is the only true version.
It’s what keeps discussions going.

eazybee Wed 02-Oct-24 09:07:37

Very few stories are made up or completely untrue; what happens is selective reporting; prominence given to some parts of a story, others discarded.
And the world listened to the comments about the green trouser suit.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 09:17:36

So the Prince of Wales was having an affair, the Princess of Wales had withdrawn from public events because she had a facelift in January ? I didn’t believe these lies then and don’t now

Allira Wed 02-Oct-24 10:51:27

GrannyGravy13

I remember the story saying the Queen supported remain because she wore a blue and yellow hat.

Forgotten which newspaper though.

Great hat, though!!
😁

meddijess Wed 02-Oct-24 12:46:22

Standing up for women was brave. Some in the Labour party do not seem to like women at all, and Rosie referred to that. She has received hate mail and threats - and she still spoke out. An incredibly brave woman. Well done Rosie!

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 13:06:22

She was brave for standing up for women. I don't see getting elected on a Labour ticket then resigning in less than 100 days as brave, though, particularly when the things she has criticised the LP for doing are 100% within the rules - that comes across as vindictive and attention-seeking.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, and one brave act doesn't make treacherous ones into bravery.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 13:09:53

She could have stayed in the Labour Party , many female Labour MP’s do speak up for women , she keeps her job so no
hardship for her , Ruth Smeeth left the Labour Party because of antisemitism in Corbyn’s Labour Party, she lost her seat a few months later, in a general election. she should have waited those few months

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 13:16:06

Wonder who the alleged hate mail and threats were from

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 14:08:34

Anniebach

Wonder who the alleged hate mail and threats were from

The trans lobby have been vile to RD. She was brave to stand up to them, and to put up with the lack of support from her colleagues.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 14:22:58

Thank you, so nothing to do with the Labour Party, Jess Phillips has been receiving such for a very long time

Mollygo Wed 02-Oct-24 15:14:58

The trans lobby have been vile to RD. She was brave to stand up to them, and to put up with the lack of support from her colleagues.
And the lack of support from the local councillors and our local Labour MP, none of whom, male or female, are prepared to stand up for female rights.
But then the Green Party aren’t either.

MayBee70 Wed 02-Oct-24 15:19:42

Anniebach

Thank you, so nothing to do with the Labour Party, Jess Phillips has been receiving such for a very long time

Have you ever seen the locks and bolts she has to have on her front door?And it was awful how she was treated during the election campaign. And yet she continually fights for women and their safety. She left her shadow cabinet post after a disagreement with Starmer but they both agreed that there would always be a place for her in government. I’m sure I read that Yvette Coopers daughters worry about her safety. And Anna Soubry said she always stood at the back of the platform when taking the train to and from London because she was scared that someone would push her onto the track. I, too, agree with a lot that RD has said about women but that doesn’t mean that I agree with her about everything and feel that she should have stayed in the Labour Party to air her views. I still maintain that she did what she did because of a personal grievance towards the PM and am disappointed in her for doing so. Government isn’t about one single issue and it’s better to fight your cause from within and not as an outsider.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 16:33:59

Starmer didn’t see her during the election campaign ? She
She didn’t turn up for the hustings so how could he? We already know the Labour Party is giving full support to women only places

Her shadow government post , what was that, she stood down
as a Labour whip because of her meeting her married man friend during covid I didn’t know she had another post,
I know of the fears of members of he party , tha5 is not caused by the Labour Leader,
Is the party responsible for any .locks on her doors ?

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 16:43:18

Mollygo

^The trans lobby have been vile to RD. She was brave to stand up to them, and to put up with the lack of support from her colleagues.^
And the lack of support from the local councillors and our local Labour MP, none of whom, male or female, are prepared to stand up for female rights.
But then the Green Party aren’t either.

They are the colleagues I referred to. RD got very little support from anyone in the HoC - her support came from feminists and women's rights campaigners.

I admire her for standing firm, but I don't think that doing so gives her a free pass to work against the government, and support her right to leave the party if it suits her agenda to do so. I do think that it was unfair of her to stand as a Labour MP and then leave so soon though.

Galaxy Wed 02-Oct-24 18:36:44

The labour party is only now supporting womens spaces because of women like RD. Their position on this subject has been dire, and certainly for me made me doubt them on all other issues. I am happy to quote the numerous labour ministers who supported men in womens spaces, the video of lisa nandy cheering on male rapists being placed in female prisoners is there for anyone with access to Google. I will not pretend that the labour party did not chant Transwomen are women. It would be a lie.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 18:53:34

Then why did RD choose to stand as a Labour MP in July ?

She is a hypocrite